Wilder is the Biggest SCAM in Boxing History

[TheProudLunatic]

My vote goes to Mike Tyson.
His best W was a vegetating Holmes.
For a baddest man on the planet, he sure was quick to complain when people hit him back.

[Legends456]

Nah, people will downplay wilder now just cause of his last performances but he’s clearly shot, look how terrified he is of even throwing the right hand. The fury trilogy destroyed him

He’s instinctively wary now of throwing too recklessly and getting countered.

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The amount of unranked fighters Wikder found in his first 30 fights was absolutely hilarious.

After the second Stiverne fight, why? Stiverne was unranked then too

He had to fight Stiverne as he filled in for a fighter who failed a PED test leading up to a fight. Stiverne was fighting on the under card and was the next ranked guy. I crap on Wilder's opposition as much at the next poster but a few fights weren't his fault.

Wilder was very raw coming out of the amateurs and spent years in the Dixie circuit beating up on total stumble bums all the while working on his crude bad habits which also seemed to pop up whenever he was under fire from world level opponents.

As others stated Ortiz fights are his only quality wins and he could have had one in the first Fury fight if a panicky referee was officiating the first Fury fight but the rest of his opponents were cannon fodder opponents for a world level opponent. Even Ortiz with the corruption in Latin America when it comes to birth certificates I suspect Ortiz is at least 4 or 5 years old than he states he is as he always looked old for his stated age.

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He had to fight Stiverne as he filled in for a fighter who failed a PED test leading up to a fight. Stiverne was fighting on the under card and was the next ranked guy. I crap on Wilder's opposition as much at the next poster but a few fights weren't his fault.

Wilder was very raw coming out of the amateurs and spent years in the Dixie circuit beating up on total stumble bums all the while working on his crude bad habits which also seemed to pop up whenever he was under fire from world level opponents.

As others stated Ortiz fights are his only quality wins and he could have had one in the first Fury fight if a panicky referee was officiating the first Fury fight but the rest of his opponents were cannon fodder opponents for a world level opponent. Even Ortiz with the corruption in Latin America when it comes to birth certificates I suspect Ortiz is at least 4 or 5 years old than he states he is as he always looked old for his stated age.

Funny thing is fury wasn't even good in the first Wilder fight and he still beat Wilder. Wilder picked fury because he was rusty, out of shape and on drugs...Wilder literally said that at the press conference. That should be a window into Wilders thought process. He thought fury was a push over and thata why he fought him. Just like he didn't think Joshua was a push over and that's why he didn't fight him

[Pac=Duran]

Funny thing is fury wasn't even good in the first Wilder fight and he still beat Wilder. Wilder picked fury because he was rusty, out of shape and on drugs...Wilder literally said that at the press conference. That should be a window into Wilders thought process. He thought fury was a push over and thata why he fought him. Just like he didn't think Joshua was a push over and that's why he didn't fight him

Do you have a link to Wilder stating this?

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Do you have a link to Wilder stating this?

i dont but at the time people were posting it on here and laughing at him. im sure its in some of the old threads. i believe it was in the press conference for first fight or the rematch where he said fury is lucky hes here because i chose to fight him when he was fat, rusty, and on drugs. he should thank me for picking him out of obscurity. something to that affect.

[Pac=Duran]

i dont but at the time people were posting it on here and laughing at him. im sure its in some of the old threads. i believe it was in the press conference for first fight or the rematch where he said fury is lucky hes here because i chose to fight him when he was fat, rusty, and on drugs. he should thank me for picking him out of obscurity. something to that affect.

Wow its like he's proud of being an absolute fraud taking the easy road every time.

Bet he wishes he went for a Duhpapas second fight instead of Fury. His fans would have eaten up any excuse he served up. Could have retired never facing anyone in the top 10 lol

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Funny thing is fury wasn't even good in the first Wilder fight and he still beat Wilder. Wilder picked fury because he was rusty, out of shape and on drugs...Wilder literally said that at the press conference. That should be a window into Wilders thought process. He thought fury was a push over and thata why he fought him. Just like he didn't think Joshua was a push over and that's why he didn't fight him

Yes I suspect it was his brain trust who knew what what Wilder was. Most of the time the fighter believes his press clippings aren't the results of cautious match making but elite ability.

I think Wilder would be viewed differently if he fought Povetkin and lost by violent ko or conversely if Fury wasn't allowed to continue and he won the first trilogy fight by tko.

[Willow The Wisp]

Anyone that says they believe Joshua ducked Wilder is trolling or knows they're spewing bu ll**** at this stage.

Just look at Wilder's history of fighting the absolute lowest tier comp before he lost to a cherry pick gone wrong. Then look at Joshua's record

the evidence is damning. Wilder is and was a fraud.

I focus on Wilder firing Brealand for throwing in the towel in Fury-Wilder II, Verses AJ signaling No Mas against Ruiz I when nobody was throwing in the towel.
THAT, to me, is last word when comparing the two.

VALOR MATTERS.

Wilder was bound EXCLUSIVLY to defend against who the WBC alone ranked highest, which he did for 10 defences. I'm seated here at the moment with 4 of the sports most esteemed writer-historians, and they agree.

Not knocking Joshua, also a IBHOF level warrior, nor am I arguing that he didn't face the best competition between himself Wilder, Ruiz, Fury and Usyk (at heavyweight), overall. But Josh faced them while in his prime with mixed sucess.

I just don't see that as tbeing any reason to knock Wilder,
as he too had a number of his own superlative accolades.

Be a better MAN.

[Pac=Duran]

I focus on Wilder firing Brealand for throwing in the towel in Fury-Wilder II, Verses AJ signaling No Mas against Ruiz I when nobody was throwing in the towel.
THAT, to me, is last word when comparing the two.

VALOR MATTERS.

Wilder was bound EXCLUSIVLY to defend against who the WBC alone ranked highest, which he did for 10 defences. I'm seated here at the moment with 4 of the sports most esteemed writer-historians, and they agree.

Not knocking Joshua, also a IBHOF level warrior, nor am I arguing that he didn't face the best competition between himself Wilder, Ruiz, Fury and Usyk (at heavyweight), overall. But Josh faced them while in his prime with mixed sucess.

I just don't see that as tbeing any reason to knock Wilder,
as he too had a number of his own superlative accolades.

Be a better MAN.

Come on man. Joshua never quit. He couldn't answer the ref after being knocked down 4 times. He was battered from pillar to post.

Valor matters? Like swerving every major challenge in the heavyweight division before choosing to take on the wounded animal/obese drug addiction tyson fury and then proceed to lose? Lmao

Wilders a fraud, AJ is a real fighter