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  • #71
    Originally posted by TheOneAboveAll View Post

    In all seriousness, I think he should give the head coaching job to Andy Lee. Sugar Hill is starting to look like a bit of a poser.
    I do too. I think Sugar Hill, although 100 times better than John 'Use the jab we're fighting men' Fury, he is overrated, I believe he has limitations in his tactical setup, plan B, and advice in between rounds. I think Sugar is an on top Coach, he doesn't know how to turn a fight when things start going wrong. Nash out

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    • #72
      Originally posted by Boxviewer View Post

      Embarrassing for Fury was that he had talked smack of Usyk right from his wins vs AJ through the build up of their clash. He called him a middleweight who he was going to destroy instead he was the one who was rag-dolled in the ring before the whole world.

      Fuy wasn't just caught by a lucky punch but was worked into that position where he was whooped with a right-left combo. And Usyk made him gassed. Honestly, I don't which fight you were watching. Prior the 9th round he had only won 3 rounds 4, 5 and 6. Over 12 rounds he won 4 rounds at most if you give him round 12.

      You Fury fans obviously believe that showboating earned him points, they didn't. So, the fight was far from being close. It's 8-4 for Usyk. The only thing that can be said, is that without the 9th round beat up the judges would have robbed Usyk.
      Exactly on point. I gave Fury 4-6 and one more, I had it 8-4.

      The only reason Fury had success was because in round 4 Usyk started closing the distance (seeing that Fury is nothing special, semi gassed out and arms dropped), but he was not having luck with that strategy. Round 7 Usyk went back to fighting from a distance and started rocking Fury.

      It’s crazy to believe that Usyk being a shorter man has an advantage over Fury fighting from a distance. I don’t see Fury improving enough to outmaneuver Usyk in the rematch. Fury has power and speed, but does not have the power or speed needed to really hurt Usyk to the body.

      Dec 21 Usyk will win, probably by a stoppage.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by boxing IQ View Post

        I can see it also. He knows how to hurt him and what works. Fury has to figure out something clever.
        Huh?
        Make up your mind bruh
        Your last post you said you don't know what Usyk can do differently in the rematch & it favors Fury

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        • #74
          Originally posted by diplo View Post

          I was surprised he looked as distracted as he did when his nose got smashed. Maybe that's never happened to him before. Similar to when he got badly cut vs Wallin.

          Good chin but doesn't like blood. Usyk's tactics for the rematch? Make him bleed. That'll do.
          After that rd 8 punch with the blood streaming from his nose between rounds Fury suddenly looked different for sure.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by Nash out View Post

            I do too. I think Sugar Hill, although 100 times better than John 'Use the jab we're fighting men' Fury, he is overrated, I believe he has limitations in his tactical setup, plan B, and advice in between rounds. I think Sugar is an on top Coach, he doesn't know how to turn a fight when things start going wrong. Nash out
            The door is open for a Ben Davison reunion, a GOAT trainer
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            • #76
              Originally posted by greeneye99 View Post

              Huh?
              Make up your mind bruh
              Your last post you said you don't know what Usyk can do differently in the rematch & it favors Fury
              I can see it both ways.

              Are we going to act like the last fight wasn't close by a round or two?

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Haka View Post
                If Fury wants to win he has to fight like he did in the middle rounds before his nose got cracked in round 8, have 6 rounds of those minimum and avoid getting starched.
                Problem is he can"t. He will gas out again.

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                • #78
                  fury will get "cut" close to the fight

                  forget the rematch, let's get fury vs aj

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by boxing IQ View Post

                    I can see it both ways.

                    Are we going to act like the last fight wasn't close by a round or two?
                    No argument from me the Fight was close
                    All I did was point out your Contradictions in your previous Post

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by TheOneAboveAll View Post

                      Ok, I thought Rds 1-3 were as clean as can be for Usyk. Like the broadcast team, I sense that Fury gets a bit too much credit from many fans for very little work he does round to round. It seems to be that if Fury lands two punches, people give him the round. If he lands three, he's put on a masterclass. From where I sat, Fury got outworked, outmaneuvered, outboxed and outpunched in at least 9 rounds (I could concede an even Rd 7 maybe), but we all see different things.
                      I was going for Usyk so I tried to be as objective as possible and give Fury the benefit of the doubt. I'll have to watch the fight again and see if I come up with the same score card. In the end we reached the same conclusion that Usyk won the fight.
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