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Where do you place Usyk all-time at heavyweight after last night?

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  • #51
    Witherspoon, Chisora, Joshua, Dubois*, Fury

    There are two great wins in there, and I'm not a boxing historian but surely you have to do more to be considered an atg HW.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Toffee View Post

      So, genuine question, what would it take? Because there's not much left to do.

      .
      ​​​​​​Fight the GOAT Frank Sanchez when the knees have healed up.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Weebler I View Post
        Witherspoon, Chisora, Joshua, Dubois*, Fury

        There are two great wins in there, and I'm not a boxing historian but surely you have to do more to be considered an atg HW.
        People assume Fury is an all time great for no reason whatsoever. He beat wladimir who is NOT an all time great. The rest were cans.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Dr. Z

          YES boxing is a global centric sport. but in the past men like Jordan, Magic, and Bird dominated. And in boxing the USA used to dominate. Now they just are not as good, the home grown USA talent.. in both sports.

          Basketball is becoming a game or really tall big men that happen to be able to Shoot, and Pass well. It just was not that way 30+ years ago.

          The top five players in the game as you listed may be all European in says 3 years. James and Curry will retie soon. Who's the next USA star player? I am not a basketball guy so I do not know.


          Yeah it was only a matter of time before they found incredible tall coordinated 7ft shooters. Freakshow sport tbh lol

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          • #55
            Anywhere above Fury and AJ.
            MoonCheese Marchegiano likes this.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by -Kev-
              He’s undeniably an All Time Great now. Period. He’s the greatest Cruiserweight and Heavyweight of his era. And he’s one of the greatest Heavyweights of all time. And he’s proven with his wins over much bigger opponents in a higher weight class, that he is a true top P4P boxer in its literal meaning.

              Oleksandr Usyk’s notable wins in his journey through Undisputed Cruiserweight and Heavyweight championship.

              Krzysztof Glowacki - 26-0, WBO CW Champion
              Michael Hunter - 12-0, Defense
              Marco Huck - 40-4, Defense
              Mairis Breidis - 23-0, WBC CW Champion
              Murat Gassiev - 26-0 WBA, IBF CW Champion
              Tony Bellew - 30-2, Defense
              Derick Chisora - 32-9
              Anthony Joshua - 24-1, WBA, WBO, IBF HW Champion
              Anthony Joshua - 24-2, Defense
              Daniel Dubois - 19-1, Defense
              Tyson Fury - 34-0, WBC HW Champion

              All this in just 22 pro fights.

              This is a true champion’s resume and a real elite boxer. This man’s skills transcends size just like Floyd Mayweather Jr and Manny Pacquiao…two legends and GOATs of their time. Usyk has joined them.

              I admit Usyk has even surpassed my favorite active fighter, Canelo Alvarez. Usyk dominating Fury would’ve been like Canelo dominating Bivol. And Canelo is an ATG as well.
              Great post, all very true.

              In my eyes, Usyk did the deed, and pushes higher up the list.
              It will be interesting to see if he can repeat on October.

              As of mid-May 2024
              50 years of Heavyweights. 1974 - 2024

              (Note: Those highlighted are Active Today)

              1. Muhammad Ali
              2. Lennox Lewis
              3. Larry Holmes
              4. Mike Tyson
              5. George Foreman
              6. Oleksandr Usyk
              7. Wladimir Klitschko
              8. Tyson Fury
              9. Ken Norton
              10. Joe Frazier
              11. Evander Holyfield
              12. Anthony Joshua
              13. Deontay Wilder
              14. Ron Lyle
              15. Vitali Klitschko
              16. Rid**** Bowe
              17. Gerry Cooney
              18. Earnie Shavers
              19. Jimmy Young
              20. Joseph Parker
              21. Ike Ibeabuchi
              21. Tim Witherspoon
              23. Gerrie Coetzee
              24. Andrew Golota
              25. Michael Dokes
              26. David Tua
              27. Alexander Povetkin
              28. Mike Weaver
              29. Frank Bruno
              30. Tommy Morrison
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              • #57
                Originally posted by automaton89 View Post

                People assume Fury is an all time great for no reason whatsoever. He beat wladimir who is NOT an all time great. The rest were cans.
                Lol.

                4 serious questions for this poster:

                Are you a fan of Boxing?
                Are you a fan of Mixed Martial Arts?
                Are you a fan of Professional Wrestling?
                Are you a fan of Traditional Martial Arts?

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post
                  Where's Will O the Wisp at? He's the boxing historian, right? Big Fury fan? Curious to see if his take is still consistent.
                  See above.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by FinitoxDinamita
                    Usyk is no ATG so relax lol. People seem to love throwing that word around so easily these days.

                    Undisputed at cruiser and heavy after beating all the best fighters in each division.

                    Countless fighters and trainers are saying hes one of the best ever

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post

                      See above.
                      Thanks. I'm curious if there are other fighters in history who have been the road warriors that Usyk has. How does he stack up historically in terms of winning titles on the road?

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