Where do you place Usyk all-time at heavyweight after last night?

[Pac=Duran]

That is an absolutely insane individual win for a smaller guy to have accomplished.

He beat an undefeated beats that had 4 inches in height and 40 pounds in weight on him. God knows how many inches reach.

Pulled victory from the jaws od defeat with that 9th round too. Fury was starting to lang hard right hands and uppercut. He hurt usyk multiple times.

What a performance be Usyk.

[The Big Dunn]

I don’t know if this makes him an ATG Hwt. His run at hwt is impressive. That said, in the rbr thread of the Usyk Dubois fight, I thought he got stopped.

I think it should make him the #1 p4p boxer in the sport.

His run since Glowacki has been insane. Cleaning out CW and HWT deserves a ton of respect.

[Stuntman Mike]

I don’t know if this makes him an ATG Hwt. His run at hwt is impressive. That said, in the rbr thread of the Usyk Dubois fight, I thought he got stopped.

I think it should make him the #1 p4p boxer in the sport.

His run since Glowacki has been insane. Cleaning out CW and HWT deserves a ton of respect.

If the ref didnt rule that shot a low blow id be suprised if usyk didnt get up.

I think he milked it knowing it was counted a low blow

[cfang]

I think he’s got to be top ten now. He’s beaten the two best heavys of their generation. Been undisputed in two divisions. Stellar amateur career. Incredible fighter.

[Atypicalbrit]

It's difficult because he is unbeaten and undisputed but he's only beaten two notable guys at heavyweight and hasn't faced a great variety of styles.

In no way is he a top 10, I'd say a fringe top 10 guy is Wlad, and Wladamir had a 10 year reign with like 20 defences in a row.

I give him all the credit in the world for beating Fury and Joshua, but compare him to Holyfield.

Holyfield beat Tyson twice, Bowe, Foreman, Valuev at like 50 years old, Rahman, Ruiz, Moorer, Mercer, Holmes, Douglas.

In boxing, Styles make fights, there's just not enough data on usyk to know how good he is at heavyweight, he hasn't faced a pressure fighter, a slick boxer, smaller heavyweights with better coordination etc.

You can only beat what's in front of you but Usyk would need another 3 or 4 good wins vs a variety of opponents for me to be like yeah he's top 10.

Lets think of a variety of style matchups

Parker - fast hands tough guy with good stamina

Kabayel - body punching specialist, young, hungry

Hrgovic - young, hungry, iron chin, skilled amateur

Ruiz Jr - tough as nails, power, fast hands, short

That's a nice variety, if Usyk can handle those guys I wouldn't argue top 10

[Simurgh]

It depends how one judge it. He is the best HW of this generation. he beat aj x2, fury which is super impressive and not many atg hws have better top3 wins. If we judge it by top 3 wins, definetelly one of the best ever, but most people would judge by top 10 wins and usyk (unless we add cw fights), cannot compete for the simple reason he wont have 10 fights at HW.

I feel he is top10 ATG boxer, regardless of the weight class and it is more fair to judge him like that. I put him among the very best (top 5) boxers in the last 25 years.

[Atypicalbrit]

It depends how one judge it. He is the best HW of this generation. he beat aj x2, fury which is super impressive and not many atg hws have better top3 wins. If we judge it by top 3 wins, definetelly one of the best ever, but most people would judge by top 10 wins and usyk (unless we add cw fights), cannot compete for the simple reason he wont have 10 fights at HW.

I feel he is top10 ATG boxer, regardless of the weight class and it is more fair to judge him like that. I put him among the very best (top 5) boxers in the last 25 years.

My top 5 of the last 25 years

Roy Jones
Floyd Mayweather
Manny Pacquiao
Bernard Hopkins
Juan Manuel Marquez

Usyk not quite there he would be somewhere 5-10 for me

As far as ATG top 10, no, no way.

[Simurgh]

My top 5 of the last 25 years

Roy Jones
Floyd Mayweather
Manny Pacquiao
Bernard Hopkins
Juan Manuel Marquez

Usyk not quite there he would be somewhere 5-10 for me

As far as ATG top 10, no, no way.

fair enough - i have him certainly above Hopkins and JMM. RJJ very difficult to judge (in some ways, same as for Mike Tyson, although RJJ was much better).

Mayweather could be GOAT, so I would also say he ranks higher. manny lost too many for my liking to put him above usyk, but have no issues if you do.

It comes down to how one credits the CW. I do. What usyk did there alone is remarkable.

[IronDanHamza]

Heavyweight it’s hard to say even though he’s now beaten the top HW of his era and also beaten the Top 3 HW of the era twice.

In general though, he’s an ATG. Great resume and great fighter.

[Pac=Duran]

My top 5 of the last 25 years

Roy Jones
Floyd Mayweather
Manny Pacquiao
Bernard Hopkins
Juan Manuel Marquez

Usyk not quite there he would be somewhere 5-10 for me

As far as ATG top 10, no, no way.

Lol at b hop above usyk. Bernard is so overrated it's not even funny