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  • #41
    Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
    Best parker, zhang, and flip then usyk is goat
    All of those fights would be Usyk just beating a mandatory. They do nothing for his all time great status. Usyk vs Parker

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    • #42
      Originally posted by niceyboo3 View Post

      All of those fights would be Usyk just beating a mandatory. They do nothing for his all time great status. Usyk vs Parker
      He's a good win.

      Usyk is being compared to guys like Ali and Lennox now.

      Parker is a better win than Ken Norton and Frazier. These guys were really limited and small.

      Foreman is one of Alis best wins and to be honest he had Wilder-tier technique

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      • #43
        Boxing fans are becoming like MMA fans now with this obsession to crown any fighter who gets a good win as the GOAT

        Usyk is an excellent fighter with some fantastic achievements but my god.

        Fury was landing lead uppercuts in there, can you IMAGINE Usyk against a 1999 Lennox Lewis

        One uppercut from Lewis probably deposits Usyk's head on the moon. If you think any of Usyks tricks would work on Muhammed Ali you are kidding yourself, Ali vs Usyk would look like Roy Jones vs James Toney.

        Modern boxing fans please just sit down, enjoy the fights for what they are but stop with this desperation to call the best of what's around now in a pretty weak era, the best of all time because no matter how many times you say it it will not make it so.

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        • #44
          Never easy to place an active fighter... Usyk needs a few defences of his title against top opposition. Longevity is a big factor. Holyfield for example defended his Unified titles at Cruiser and Heavy 7 times. Usyk has defended his 3 times.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Pac=Duran View Post

            He's a good win.

            Usyk is being compared to guys like Ali and Lennox now.

            Parker is a better win than Ken Norton and Frazier. These guys were really limited and small.

            Foreman is one of Alis best wins and to be honest he had Wilder-tier technique
            Usyk is an all time great right now. Beating Parker now literally does nothing. It ONLY lifts Parker. Usyk should only fight fury again and after I don't know

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            • #46
              Originally posted by niceyboo3 View Post

              Usyk is an all time great right now. Beating Parker now literally does nothing. It ONLY lifts Parker. Usyk should only fight fury again and after I don't know
              Parker earned it. He's been on a nice run and deserves the shot.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Atypicalbrit View Post
                Fury was landing lead uppercuts in there, can you IMAGINE Usyk against a 1999 Lennox Lewis
                Lennox was KO’ed twice by 2 mid tier guys. By similar analogy you could say imagine what Wilder would do to
                him? But we both know that’s not how it works.

                I’m all about giving legends their due respect but I wouldn’t put them on unreachable pedestal either. They lost to lesser competition as well. Not all of their fights were against ‘high quality’ opponents either. There’s never been a perfect heavyweight or a perfect era.
                Last edited by qad; 05-20-2024, 05:06 AM.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by cfang View Post
                  I think he’s got to be top ten now. He’s beaten the two best heavys of their generation. Been undisputed in two divisions. Stellar amateur career. Incredible fighter.
                  Top 10 HW of all time after 6 fights at HW, well done casual. lol He is not even top 50 all time HW, he has barely had any fights there regardless if he has the belts. He would not be favourate vs at least 100 former HW's.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by BodyBagz
                    Usyk is the only HW of this era worth a damn.
                    He would also run amok in the 80s where the throne was a revolving door of crackheads.
                    He would have annihilated Tubbs, Smith and Tucker.

                    Not sure he would fair that well in the time of Tua, Lennox, K2....

                    Above Moorer
                    You really say some silly stuff. Usyk would not be favourite vs those guys let alone run amok were all much more skilled than AJ and big. This era of HW's is awful, people need to realize that. I think he struggles to beat Parker.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Pac=Duran View Post

                      How is this the w9rst heavyweight era ever if Fury and Joshua coukd probably trounce every guy from the 90s and 2000s bar Lennox and Vitali?
                      Because they couldn't. AJ got trounced by a small fat mexican, and Fury struggled with an mma fighter.

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