Terence Crawford vs Naoya Inoue vs Oleksandr Usyk resume deep dives

[famicommander]

Right so he was a fake WBO Champion which doesn't count. I don't count "elevated" champions nor should anyone.

He was IBF and he beat Stuart Hall for it

Are you going to retract that Paul Butler is more skilled than most of Usyk's wins? I think you should.

Butler is orders of magnitude better than Chisora or Mchunu. Chisora is like 0-13 against fighters with a pulse.

[IronDanHamza]

Butler is orders of magnitude better than Chisora or Mchunu. Chisora is like 0-13 against fighters with a pulse.

Well, you said most of Usyk's wins not two wins that aren't even close to being in his top 5.

Are you going to retract that or stand by that? Because it's a fucking astronomically ****** stance.

[IronDanHamza]

The same Nonito that was losing every round against a old Vic in the rematch untill he caught him with the left hook. Then proceeded to get KO'd by Walters and then losing to b level fighter in magdaleno and then schooled by little Frampton. Thats Inoues best win. The fact Nonioto become relvant again by dropping down and Koing people half his size shows how weak the lower weight divisons are.

It's hilarity to be honest.

Donaire, awesome fighter in his prime but that version that Inoue fight is far from elite. Inoue's weird fans pretend he was for some reason.

[famicommander]

Well, you said most of Usyk's wins not two wins that aren't even close to being in his top 5.

Are you going to retract that or stand by that? Because it's a fucking astronomically ****** stance.

Only 8 of Usyk's 22 wins were against someone even good.

[famicommander]

It's hilarity to be honest.

Donaire, awesome fighter in his prime but that version that Inoue fight is far from elite. Inoue's weird fans pretend he was for some reason.

Donaire was in the top 4 and a reigning bantamweight world titlist both times Inoue beat him and to that point his only losses had come at 126 and 122. Clown.

[RetroSpeed05]

It's hilarity to be honest.

Donaire, awesome fighter in his prime but that version that Inoue fight is far from elite. Inoue's weird fans pretend he was for some reason.

Yep, a shell of himself. Rigo fought the Nonito who was p4p #5 and Walters fought a Nonito who was champ at 130 after that Nonito went downhill and was forced to move down to get wins again.

[IronDanHamza]

Donaire was in the top 4 and a reigning bantamweight world titlist both times Inoue beat him and to that point his only losses had come at 126 and 122. Clown.

Yes I'm well aware of Donaire's career mate. "Top 4" oooooooooooooo amazing. Is that all you do go off on paper stats?

Donaire is a great fighter, yes. In his prime he was P4P, elite, and great. That 37 year old version, whilst yes still a good fighter, was not even remotely close to elite.

To pretend he was is pathetic.

[maguirre]

Don't know why they keep debating this who is P4P#1 nonsense. WTF cares? It's not a sport. It's entertainment. They fight once a year or whenever they feel like it. What kind of sport is that?

[IronDanHamza]

Yep, a shell of himself. Rigo fought the Nonito who was p4p #5 and Walters fought a Nonito who was champ at 130 after that Nonito went downhill and was forced to move down to get wins again.

Rigondeaux's win over Donaire is one of the best wins of the modern era.

He was underdog in that fight.

Inoue's? It's alright I suppose. Inoue doesn't have any great wins like that.

[famicommander]

Yes I'm well aware of Donaire's career mate. "Top 4" oooooooooooooo amazing. Is that all you do go off on paper stats?

Donaire is a great fighter, yes. In his prime he was P4P, elite, and great. That 37 year old version, whilst yes still a good fighter, was not even remotely close to elite.

To pretend he was is pathetic.

To try to downplay Donaire and then at the same time hype up a win over Fury after Fury got dropped by a debuting novice is rich.

The skill level at heavyweight is pathetic. That's why guys like Charles Martin, Deontay Wilder, Joseph Parker, and Bermane Stiverne were able to win world titles in the first place.