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  • IronDanHamza
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    #61
    Originally posted by famicommander

    To try to downplay Donaire and then at the same time hype up a win over Fury after Fury got dropped by a debuting novice is rich.

    The skill level at heavyweight is pathetic. That's why guys like Charles Martin, Deontay Wilder, Joseph Parker, and Bermane Stiverne were able to win world titles in the first place.
    Right so that 37 year old "TOP 4" version of Donaire is a better win than Tyson Fury you are saying?

    Log off mate. Take a break, you need it.

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      #62
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza

      Right so that 37 year old "TOP 4" version of Donaire is a better win than Tyson Fury you are saying?

      Log off mate. Take a break, you need it.
      How many times was Donaire dropped by someone with 0 boxing matches?

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        #63
        Naoya Inoue is the Pound for Pound King for me. I have Bud Crawford #2.

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          #64
          Originally posted by famicommander

          How many times was Donaire dropped by someone with 0 boxing matches?
          He wasn't. He never fought an MMA fighter so it's impossible to say.

          Regardless, Fury was the #1 Heavyweight in the world and of his era. To argue that 37 year old version of Donaire is a better win is laughable.

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            #65
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza

            He wasn't. He never fought an MMA fighter so it's impossible to say.

            Regardless, Fury was the #1 Heavyweight in the world and of his era. To argue that 37 year old version of Donaire is a better win is laughable.
            Donaire had good wins right before and right after the first Inoue fight. Fury has been fighting total bums since he finished with Wilder in 2021. Chisora, Whyte, an MMA guy, then a loss?

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              #66
              Originally posted by famicommander

              Donaire had good wins right before and right after the first Inoue fight. Fury has been fighting total bums since he finished with Wilder in 2021. Chisora, Whyte, an MMA guy, then a loss?
              How is Whyte a total bum when he was "ranked" on paper like you love to use for average and even below average fighters for Inoue? Or do you just pick and chose when rankings suit you?

              You can keep trying to desperately clutch onto Donaire still being elite at age 37 but he objectively wasn't. Not even close either.,

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                #67
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                How is Whyte a total bum when he was "ranked" on paper like you love to use for average and even below average fighters for Inoue? Or do you just pick and chose when rankings suit you?

                You can keep trying to desperately clutch onto Donaire still being elite at age 37 but he objectively wasn't. Not even close either.,
                Heavyweight is trash. That's how a bum like Whyte gets ranked. Again, Charles f'n Martin won a heavyweight title.

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                  #68
                  All 3 are amazing. Any order is fine for me, although it is usyk for me. Usyk beating Fury, is equivalent of Bud beating Bivol.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by famicommander

                    Heavyweight is trash. That's how a bum like Whyte gets ranked. Again, Charles f'n Martin won a heavyweight title.
                    Oh right, so you literally do just pick and chose when rankings matter then

                    So hold, Paul Butler, good win, because he's "ranked", more skilled than most of Usyk's wins apparently (probably the dumbest opinion I have ever heard), but Dillian Whyte's ranked but he's a bum anyway because the division isn't good.

                    Yeah because those lower divisons are just stacked with talent aren't they I can use the same fallacy argument for most of those Inoue's wins if you want to go down that road.

                    Log off mate you're having a mare.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                      Oh right, so you literally do just pick and chose when rankings matter then

                      So hold, Paul Butler, good win, because he's "ranked", more skilled than most of Usyk's wins apparently (probably the dumbest opinion I have ever heard), but Dillian Whyte's ranked but he's a bum anyway because the division isn't good.

                      Yeah because those lower divisons are just stacked with talent aren't they I can use the same fallacy argument for most of those Inoue's wins if you want to go down that road.

                      Log off mate you're having a mare.
                      Paul Butler literally won two world titles. Dillian Whyte accomplished nothing in his entire career.

                      And yes, the lower divisions are WAY more stacked with talent than heavyweight.

                      That's why Wilder and Joshua were both able to win world titles and Olympic medals with very little experience.
                      That's why Charles Martin, Joseph Parker, and Bermane Stiverne were able to win world titles.
                      That's why Francis Ngannou was able to drop the reigning WBC heavyweight champion in his first ever boxing match.

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