Terence Crawford vs Naoya Inoue vs Oleksandr Usyk resume deep dives

**famicommander** · 05-18-2024, 11:26 PM

Originally posted by Santa_

Usyk's #1 until he loses his 0.

Crawford and Inoue can continue to fight for #2.

Care to provide any reasoning? Vote in the poll, maybe?

**crimsonfalcon07** · 05-19-2024, 12:01 AM

I've got Inoue at #1, No other active fighter has fought the level of difficulty he has. Literally has taken on the best available opposition his whole career, no tuneups, no rehydration crap, no catchweights, just straight to the best fighter who will sign, and knocks them out. More than half his career vs world champions, most ranked top 5 by Ring, 81.5% of his career has been title fights, over 90% KO'a in title fights, and he's scored more 10-8 rounds across his career than his opponents have scored 10-9's against him. And he's well on his way to completely cleaning out 2 consecutive divisions. He's left basically nobody in his wake that could reasonably be considered a threat across 5 divisions. There's a few younger fighters, but I don't know that any of them would be even odds, let alone favorites. How many champs have completely cleaned out 2 consecutive divisions with no tuneups, just straight to the best guy in the division, then everyone after him. Fought the best guy in the division in his divisional debut 3 times. He's so dominant people are resorting to trying to get him to fight a guy 3 divisions up. Usyk jumps to 2 for me with tonight's win, over 3 Crawford.

**Atypicalbrit** · 05-19-2024, 12:06 AM

Inoue is #1

Usyk is impressive, but he doesn't have a massively deep resume and the nature of the wins are nowhere near as dominant as Inoues wins

People talk about Usyk schooling people, but Inoue "schools people" as in, nobody looks like they belong in the ring with inoue. Usyk is always busted up and always wins 8-4 or 7-5, he grinds out wins he's not dominating in the way inoue is.

Crawford is a great fighter but far, far too inactive.

I have Inoue clear number 1, he is a once in a lifetime talent.

Usyk number 2, generational talent for sure

Crawford 3, generational, but inactive.

**RetroSpeed05** · 05-19-2024, 12:09 AM

Says a lot that Number ranks mean nothing the fact that someone like john Molina is was #3 at some point lol Beltran and Burns #3 shows how weak the divvison was at the time.

**Atypicalbrit** · 05-19-2024, 12:19 AM

Originally posted by Hous

Inoue is great, but he never fought a champion that had a 17.25% weight advantage over him.

% of weight doesn't mean anything, P4P is if they were the same size who would win

Inoue looks like a much better boxer than Usyk to me, sorry that's just how it is. If they were the same size Inoue would body Usyk with a body shot.

I enjoy watching Usyk fight but I never watch him and think "this is like watching Floyd mayweather or Sugar Ray"

I genuinely see that talent level from Inoue, the guy is outrageously talented.

**famicommander** · 05-19-2024, 12:20 AM

Originally posted by Hous

Inoue is great, but he never fought a champion that had a 17.25% weight advantage over him.

The higher up in weight you go, the less significant each pound of difference becomes. That's why there's a 25 pound jump from light heavyweight to cruiserweight and it's why there's no upper limit on heavyweight.

Inoue has wins in 5 divisions, titles in 4, and undisputed lineal titles in 2. That can't be minimized.

And Crawford being lineal in 3 divisions is something only he, Mayweather, Pacquiao, De La Hoya, Leonard, Canzoneri, Ross, Armstrong, and Fitzsimmons have done in the history of the sport.

I don't think you can boil this down to one singular thing for any one of the three guys. That's the point of the deep dive in the first place. I think all three guys are worthy choices and they're head and shoulders above anybody else.

At the moment I'm leaning Crawford, and if he beats #3 Madrimov at 154 in his next fight that's another big W. The main argument against him is of course his activity, but hopefully the Saudi backing solves that issue.

Usyk will naturally have fewer opportunities for big fights at a higher weight so a volume comparison will naturally not favor him, but he's incredible too.

**satiev1** · 05-19-2024, 12:29 AM

Lmao for people that polled for inoue.

**famicommander** · 05-19-2024, 12:31 AM

Originally posted by satiev1

Lmao for people that polled for inoue.

All three guys have a great case and all three guys are likely facing top 4 opponents in their next fights. All boxing fans should be grateful for all three guys.

**Roadblock** · 05-19-2024, 01:07 AM

Originally posted by Hous

It is "pound for pound". Usyk defeated champions that weighed between 200 & 260lbs, and as a heavywight, he gave up a 20-40lb advantage in all of his bouts and came up on top each time. I think that makes him the defacto p4p no. 1.

If Inoue and Crawford were HWs Id back them both to dominate the division including all todays HWs, as for a fighters ability HWs dont compare in my eyes, seems P4P is about who got the most trophies, where for me its about the fighting and how good is the fighter all things being equal which is P4P, Inoue and TC are better fighters than any HW.

Terence Crawford vs Naoya Inoue vs Oleksandr Usyk resume deep dives