Terence Crawford vs Naoya Inoue vs Oleksandr Usyk resume deep dives

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  • IronDanHamza
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    #41
    Originally posted by famicommander

    Yes, by far. Donaire, Hernandez, and Narvaez are 20X more skilled as boxers than Fury or Joshua.
    You're actually trying to argue that that version of Donaire and Navarez are better than Tyson Fury and AJ?

    That is comical.

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      #42
      Originally posted by famicommander

      Not elite, but he won 2 world titles at 118 which is a far more deep and skilled weight class than heavyweight or cruiserweight. Can you imagine Inoue getting dropped by a debuting fighter like reigning heavyweight titlist Tyson Fury did against Ngannou?
      Mate Paul Butler is crap.

      Pretty sure he was only one time 118 champion and he won it off Stuart Hall who is also crap.

      The fact you've just said he's more skilled than all of those Usyk wins is one of the most ridculous things I've ever heard in my life.

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        #43
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza

        You're actually trying to argue that that version of Donaire and Navarez are better than Tyson Fury and AJ?

        That is comical.
        Narvaez was #1 and a reigning, 2 division world titlist making his 12th defense. Easy Hall of Fame fighter.

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          #44
          Originally posted by famicommander

          Narvaez was #1 and a reigning, 2 division world titlist making his 12th defense. Easy Hall of Fame fighter.
          He's not an "easy hall of famer" at all firstly. I doubt he even get's in there and unlikely on the first ballot if he even does.

          Navarez isn't some great fighter. He was decent in a wasteland of a divison. To say he's better than Tyson Fury is COMICAL.

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            #45
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza

            Mate Paul Butler is crap.

            Pretty sure he was only one time 118 champion and he won it off Stuart Hall who is also crap.

            The fact you've just said he's more skilled than all of those Usyk wins is one of the most ridculous things I've ever heard in my life.
            He held both the IBF and WBO 118 belts and I never said he was better than all of Usyk's wins, I said it was harder to win at 118 than heavy or cruiser. But Butler is probably only Inoue's 13th or 14th best win, while Usyk only has 8 credible fighters total on his resume.

            With only 22 fights bums like Witherspoon and Chisora stand out way more as patsies than a 2X titlist like Butler.

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              #46
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza

              He's not an "easy hall of famer" at all firstly. I doubt he even get's in there and unlikely on the first ballot if he even does.

              Navarez isn't some great fighter. He was decent in a wasteland of a divison. To say he's better than Tyson Fury is COMICAL.
              Fury got dropped by a 0 fight novice.

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                #47
                Originally posted by famicommander

                He held both the IBF and WBO 118 belts and I never said he was better than all of Usyk's wins, I said it was harder to win at 118 than heavy or cruiser. But Butler is probably only Inoue's 13th or 14th best win, while Usyk only has 8 credible fighters total on his resume.

                With only 22 fights bums like Witherspoon and Chisora stand out way more as patsies than a 2X titlist like Butler.
                He held the WBO when?

                You said Paul Butler is more skilled than Usyk's wins What an absurd take.

                Is Paul Butler even better than Chisora? He's probably not. I doubt you even watched Paul Butler's career with what you're saying.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                  He held the WBO when?

                  You said Paul Butler is more skilled than Usyk's wins What an absurd take.

                  Is Paul Butler even better than Chisora? He's probably not. I doubt you even watched Paul Butler's career with what you're saying.
                  We held the WBO title when Inoue beat him to become undisputed at 118. He first won the interim strap and then Casimero was stripped for cheating and Butler was elevated. Do you even watch boxing? Did you read the first post? It says right there.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by famicommander

                    We held the WBO title when Inoue beat him to become undisputed at 118. He first won the interim strap and then Casimero was stripped for cheating and Butler was elevated. Do you even watch boxing? Did you read the first post? It says right there.
                    Right so he was a fake WBO Champion which doesn't count. I don't count "elevated" champions nor should anyone.

                    He was IBF and he beat Stuart Hall for it

                    Are you going to retract that Paul Butler is more skilled than most of Usyk's wins? I think you should.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by famicommander

                      Yes, by far. Donaire, Hernandez, and Narvaez are 20X more skilled as boxers than Fury or Joshua.
                      The same Nonito that was losing every round against a old Vic in the rematch untill he caught him with the left hook. Then proceeded to get KO'd by Walters and then losing to b level fighter in magdaleno and then schooled by little Frampton. Thats Inoues best win. The fact Nonioto become relvant again by dropping down and Koing people half his size shows how weak the lower weight divisons are.

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