I’m pretty confident Fury will beat Usyk.

[HisExcellency]

I don't know who I want to win. But fury goes down when hit. Usyk will land, so I fear fury could go down a few times.

True but Usyk has shown he's vulnerable to the body in the past so Fury could be the FIRST one to put him down if he connects with a good body shot. No doubt that's one of Fury's strategies which is why I expect Usyk to use his superior footwork and work rate to dance circles round him in the early rounds building up a points lead before fighting on the inside in the later rounds when Fury will be gassed with lower punch output and pop.

[kafkod]

Yes kafkod, how are you mate?

I'm ok, cheers, and really looking forward to the fight on Saturday. May the best man win!

I haven't seen you posting in this forum for a while. How's things with you?

[kafkod]

Pretty much how I see it.

I don't think it'll be exciting, I think it'll be intriguing, maybe.

Usyk has fought big men like AJ but he's flat footed mid-range boxer, absolutely perfect for Usyk. It's tough to beat a smaller quicker man when your only skill set is at his perfect range.

AJ doesn't know how to box long off a jab and pivot like Fury can. He also doesn't know how to "big man" an opponent up close.

That's why size will matter this time. Fury has the luxury of having the ability to box long off a pivot with a huge reach, or he can maul. Usyk really needs Fury to stand and box at mid range and why would Fury do that when he has other options with a major advantage? Dubois and AJ didn't have those options because they never fight that way.

I mention a pivot because Fury is one of few heavyweight that knows how to Jab and pivot. It completely negates a fighter who switches angles because you're keeping them at a distance where their angles aren't doing anything. That's what Teo did to Loma, it was a very smart game plan. Loma only had success when Teo started straying from the game plan, but once he got back on it, Loma was basically ineffective, as was his switch of angle.

You can't switch angle when someone keeps you at long range and pivots with you. Its like the degrees of an inner and outer circle.

The difference between Fury/Usyk and Teo/Loma is that Teo hits hard enough to intimidate a smaller guy like Loma and make him cautious about getting close enough to land his own shots. Teo's game plan of pivoting with Loma, plus that intimidating power, is what won the fight for him.

Imo, Fury doesn't have the kind of power to intimidate Usyk. Not with fast punches thrown on the move, at any rate.

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I think Usyk will win by using angles plus his superior foot speed and punch output. Fury is very mobile and well co-ordinated for a man of his size and gangly build. But Usyk, being smaller and more compactly built, has faster feet and better co-ordination than Fury. I'm expecting Usyk to get inside Fury's reach and build a points lead, round by round, by consistently throwing and landing more punches than Fury. Usyk by UD is my prediction.

Yes kafkod, how are you mate?

[hugh grant]

I don't know who I want to win. But fury goes down when hit. Usy k will land, so I fear fury could go down a few times.

[kafkod]

I think Usyk will win by using angles plus his superior foot speed and punch output. Fury is very mobile and well co-ordinated for a man of his size and gangly build. But Usyk, being smaller and more compactly built, has faster feet and better co-ordination than Fury. I'm expecting Usyk to get inside Fury's reach and build a points lead, round by round, by consistently throwing and landing more punches than Fury. Usyk by UD is my prediction.

[HisExcellency]

You made a direct comparison you fool. You’re out of your depth here kid. Go and debate with with some other single digit IQ poster, that’s more your level.

Lol go back to cleaning the McDonalds toilets you low IQ broke bum

[MikeyG]

Yes, Usyk will definitely have more problems to get into his ideal range, but the question is if Fury will be consistent enough with this tactic (if he uses it)?
Also Usyk was more aggresive in the Dubois fight. He is usually more aggresive when opponent is tired, so that is another question, if Fury's stamina will hold up.

[HisExcellency]

You seem very emotionally invested man. Instead of weak trolling how about actually analysing the fight?

I’m willing to listen to a coherent argument but you seemingly lack the intellect to construct one.

I already did...you're just too dumb to understand. Seriously though, if you think that Usyk's 350 fight ELITE amateur pedigree, being an undefeated, undisputed Cruiserweight and unified Heavyweight champion including beating every single Heavyweight he's faced to date in addition to his superior footwork, handspeed, technique and ring IQ are not 'coherent arguments' then you need to **** your head against a brick wall and knock some sense into yourself bud

[Zelda]

Break it down then, how does Usyk beat Tyson Fury if Tyson keeps it long, and smothers and leans him whenever Usyk tries to close the distance? I'm genuinely curious to know.

I think it is a nearly 50-50 fight, at least for the first fight. But if I had to choose a winner, I would probably go for Fury. I believe Fury's skillset is different but matches that of Usyk's. Usyk has a great work rate and foot movement while Fury has the better jab and upper body movement. Usyk can move laterally and create angles but Fury can avoid it being on the back foot, using upper body movement, or switching stances. Usyk would like you to come at him but Fury can take the center ring, box on the back foot, and let Usyk come in.

Many boxers who have fought Usyk commented on how Usyk is constantly in front of you but just out of range, making you think you can reach him but take advantage to counterpunch. They also talk about how tired they feel fighting Usyk. In this case, Fury's longer reach and great jab will keep Usyk a little farther. So, getting in and out would not be easy. Plus, Fury has good feints which will keep Usyk guessing. With the two AJ fights, Usyk got into a rhythm and boxed so well but that is because AJ fought the same way for 24 rounds. Fury will mix things up by movement, stances, aggression, back foot, inside fighting, etc. In the Chisora fight, Usyk was constantly getting away from Chisora because Chisora got tired and couldn't cut the ring. That won't be the case with Fury.

Coming back to your question on how Usyk beats Fury, it would be because a less-than-optimal Fury shows up and cannot do what I just mentioned so effectively as he did in his best fights. It will also require Usyk to be very good at reading Fury's feints and never get into a clinch. It will require a very accelerated pace to take advantage of better conditioning. It will involve calculated risks of getting in range to tab a jab but return two, and it will require a careful plan where Fury's upper body movement is negated by going to the body with heavy shots and exciting the battle using his good footwork.

A lot of ifs there but can be done because we are talking about a very good fighter. That is why I said that I slightly favor Fury but not ruling an Usyk win out.