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Originally posted by kafkod View Post
Fury wasn't playing with Ngannou when he got countered and decked by a left hook, or when he lunged in trying to clinch and got tossed contemptuously into the ropes like a rag doll. He was struggling, badly.
The way AJ effortlessly disposed of Francis 3 months later illustrated just how awful Fury was in that fight.
Fury sparred for 10 rounds, made it look competative and took the millions.
Only the least intuned observers could read anything further from that.
Step one in debriefing was Joshua NOT playing.
Step two will be Fury's demolition of Usyk.
Trust and believe.
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Originally posted by automaton89 View Post
I will repeat this until the end of times. usyk got dropped by the first big shot ever took from a heavyweight, and that heavyweight is a bum
Shoot brother, if being a bum paid that good there'd be no bums.
That said, the Knockdown looked fair on the belt line.N/A likes this.
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It is however weird that people accuse Fury that he is using his size - guys, if you are taller and heavier than everyone you face, wouldn't you use it? No matter if it is a competition or a street fight. Speed, power, size, technique, IQ - those are all gifts. When it comes to boxing (or any other fighting style) - using any of them under the rules is even mandatory for a fighter to do.
Fury got dropped multiple times - true. Did it result in losses - no. Usyk got dropped multiple times by body shots - did he always complain/simulate low blows - yes (and don't forget Luis Pabon and his pro-Ukrainian spirit: Klitschko-Povetkin, Joshua-Usyk II, Usyk-Dubois). End of story. We have just a few days to see who will win and of course and eventually, what will be the rematch outcome.
There is nothing pathetic no matter who loses - I doubt this fight will end in a draw, not that it is impossible. What can be shameful is the performance which I again doubt will happen.Last edited by N/A; 05-09-2024, 12:49 PM.
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Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post
Oh, he was certainly playing. Playing in training, playing in the fight, and nothing but. Fury knew what he had in front of him was a guy who did his boxing against chinless grapplers and kickers who knew at the the time of their career choice that they ought to stay clear of the big leagues and settle for peanuts.
Fury sparred for 10 rounds, made it look competative and took the millions.
Only the least intuned observers could read anything further from that.
Step one in debriefing was Joshua NOT playing.
Step two will be Fury's demolition of Usyk.
Trust and believe.
I don't see any way he demolishes Usyk. He might beat him, but neither of these guys is going to demolish the other.
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Originally posted by fifth_root View PostIt is however weird that people accuse Fury that he is using his size - guys, if you are taller and heavier than everyone you face, wouldn't you use it? No matter if it is a competition or a street fight. Speed, power, size, technique, IQ - those are all gifts. When it comes to boxing (or any other fighting style) - using any of these under the rules is even mandatory for a fighter to do.
Fury got dropped multiple times - true. Did it result in losses - no. Usyk got dropped multiple times by body shots - did he always complain/simulate low blows - yes (and don't forget Luis Pabon and his pro-Ukrainian spirit: Klitschko-Povetkin, Joshua-Usyk II, Usyk-Dubois). End of story. We have just a few days to see who will win and of course, what will be the rematch outcome.
There is nothing pathetic no matter who loses (I doubt this fight will end in a draw, not that it is impossible). What can be shameful is the performance which I (again doubt) will happen.
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Fury has more routes to victory anyways...
He'll either be confirmed as legit, or exposed as a fraud.
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Interesting that there is a consensus that this fight is Fury's to win or lose. Many posts start with "depending on what Fury shows up for the fight Will determine the outcome." Some of you think it is a matter of style... If Usyk can have success or not against Fury. What I do not hear is what Usyk has to do to win this fight.
To me? this info says it all... Consensus is a strong tool for getting things right, and right in this case would be, Usyk cannot do anything to Fury... Cunningham is a red herring for many reasons: Fury was younger, Cunningham can punch, Fury was not really hurt by Cunningham... Ultimately Fury made adjustments that shut Cunningham down.
Is Usyk better than Cunningham? Yes, but so what? What does this do for Usyk? Think about it...
I agree with the sentiments of the thread.
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