Comments Thread For: Report: Ryan Garcia Tests Positive for PED, Being Processed for Second Positive

[deathofaclown]

Devin Haney was probably on roids as well. Devin Haney works with Snac owned by Victor conte who is a known steroid supplier and has been in record saying how he could pass a drug test even while dirty. Just like Nate Diaz said “everyone is on steroids”

I pretty much always assume that works with Conte is dirty

[Smash]

hes made life changing money & gets to play the victim on social media, he loves it all

any attention is good attention

whoever says cheaters dont prosper needs to start cheating

[IronDanHamza]

Beterbiev was flagged for atypical levels of HGH and androstanediol before he fought Callum Smith. Because both substances occur naturally in the body he was given the benefit of the doubt and there were no repercussions.

All of the fighters I listed failed tests and then were cleared after an investigation. Whyte was popped and cleared twice.

Ortiz and Whyte served bans for other offences that they weren't cleared of.

Right so Betebiev has never tested positive for anything then.

He wasn't given the benefit of the doubt for anything because no rules were broken. Atypical levels of that nature are not against the rules.

It doesn't really matter, you aren't given the luxury of the benefit of the doubt when failing a drug test especially multiple. You're guilty of having the drugs in your system, until you can prove otherwise. Once again the system is broken any way because it's impossible to demonstrably prove how they got into your system.

[champion4ever]

I pretty much always assume that works with Conte is dirty

Nah, this is not the time to deflect and place blame on Devin Haney. So please don't lump him into this. Victor Conte was the founder of VADA testing. So if Haney is dirty then everyone who has ever tested for VADA is dirty.

If it's guilt by association; Then is Terence Bud Crawford and Andre Ward are dirty too? I only ask because they have both worked with Victor Conte through his SNCC program?

[deathofaclown]

Nah, this is not the time to deflect and place blame on Devin Haney. So please don't lump him into this. Victor Conte was the founder of VADA testing. So if Haney is dirty then everyone who has ever tested for VADA is dirty.

If it's guilt by association; Then is Terence Bud Crawford and Andre Ward are dirty too? I only ask because they have both worked with Victor Conte through his SNCC program?

It's not about deflecting it. If Ryan is guilty then ban him.

my personal belief is pretty much all top athletes are on something or other. There's experts out there that say they're always a step ahead of the testing. So if they've got enough dough to pay the top people in the PED game, then i reckon many people are doing it and often ahead if the testing. The ones that get caught are probably when something is messed up during a cycle or something. All boxers probably know all other boxers are taking PED's, its a small world in boxing. They probably just don't snitch on others when they get caught.

that's just my belief though. You can only take action on those who fail the test.

[kafkod]

Right so Betebiev has never tested positive for anything then.

He wasn't given the benefit of the doubt for anything because no rules were broken. Atypical levels of that nature are not against the rules.

It doesn't really matter, you aren't given the luxury of the benefit of the doubt when failing a drug test especially multiple. You're guilty of having the drugs in your system, until you can prove otherwise. Once again the system is broken any way because it's impossible to demonstrably prove how they got into your system.

However you want to spin it, fighters who fail PED tests are not considered to be guilty and punished unless they are found to be guilty after an investigation. And several have been cleared after failing tests.

[IronDanHamza]

However you want to spin it, fighters who fail PED tests are not considered to be guilty and punished unless they are found to be guilty after an investigation. And several have been cleared after failing tests.

Beterbiev has never tested positive for anything so it's not a spin.

Every one who fails a drug test is considered guilty until they prove otherwise.

You're not entitled to the benefit of the doubt when you fail multiple drug tests. It's the literal scientific proof of the drugs in your system.

[IronDanHamza]

Nah, this is not the time to deflect and place blame on Devin Haney. So please don't lump him into this. Victor Conte was the founder of VADA testing. So if Haney is dirty then everyone who has ever tested for VADA is dirty.

If it's guilt by association; Then is Terence Bud Crawford and Andre Ward are dirty too? I only ask because they have both worked with Victor Conte through his SNCC program?

Victor Conte isn't the founder of VADA testing.

[Pac=Duran]

Not only did he come in completely overweight, he also tested positive for steroids. That’s absolutely crazy. Imagine being Haney and preparing to the best extent of your capabilities, only to be completely cheated.

Agree its one of the worst escapades we have seen.

I believe its a bit of poetic justice though because devin is a massive weight bully and Victor Conte is keeping him roided.

So I guess I don't really care that much lol

[lefthook2daliva]

Oh, I like to add, what is with so many Mexican, Mexican/American being caught in the past decade? Canelo, Nery, Garcia, Margacheato (wraps, not roids), Marquez unofficially, wasn't Oscar Valdez bust too? I'm sure I'm missing another 5 dudes cause I'm drunk, but whenever I read the headlines of a fighter being caught, it's been a Mexican, lol. Not racist, just pointing out what I'm reading/hearing/seeing.

Calm down. Pac was as dirty as anybody else.