Should Fury stop Usyk....How Great?

[crimsonfalcon07]

I'm also curious why Parker is still so far down on your list after his recent wins. Shouldn't there be less separation between him and Wilder after he dominated Wilder over 10, then did the same to Zhang?

[Haka]

This might be a little harsh.

Who did Wladimir Klitschko defend against successfully who was better than Fury?

I recall that when the man from whom Joshua won his world title (Charles Martin) met one of Wilder's "Cans", (Luis Ortiz), he got blown away.

King Kong Ortiz was a good win on Wilders resume. I don't think there were much better fighters than Fury on Wlad's resume but he fought all mandatories for 10 years something that Fury never did. Yet I think Fury is rated too high based on him not giving Klitscko the rematch that he deserved, which would help define Klitschko status better as well. In my opinion for Wilder only having Ortiz on his resume is too thin to be counting the 3 fights with Fury as amongst the HW rivalries of the ages.

[dan-b]

I'm not a fan of ATG/P4P lists but it would be an enormously impressive victory, one much needed for his thin resume.

With that said, I will be content with him just turning up for the fight. One month to go.

[hugh grant]

Beats usyk top 8. Beats Josh too, top 4.

[Boxing 112]

I'd like to flip that question. We all know you're a big Fury fan. Where will you place Usyk if he beats Fury? For me, beating Usyk fairly will prove that he's more than just hype. I rated Wilder more than many on here, but he's still a very limited fighter with a limited resume, and he's the best win for Fury after Klitschko, and Klitschko was a shadow of himself in that fight. I'd like to see Fury beat both Usyk AND AJ, and probably Parker and Hrgovic to really cement his place in the era, let alone the all time heavyweights, personally.

Whoever wins is top 5 all time heavyweight.

[Willow The Wisp]

I'm also curious why Parker is still so far down on your list after his recent wins. Shouldn't there be less separation between him and Wilder after he dominated Wilder over 10, then did the same to Zhang?

Parker is ranked extremely high among the tens of thousands of professional heavyweights who've campaigned in the past half century, And having known many of these men listed and having seen most of them perform live, I wouldn't move Parker a single spot.
Only so much meaning can be attached to any single fight.
Wilder was mismanaged taking on a quality fighter after 2 years of downtime during his later 30s, and Parker was just a bit busier as both were very apprehensive. I felt that Zhilei Zhang had done enough to win vs Parker, and hopefully we'll run that one back.

[Willow The Wisp]

King Kong Ortiz was a good win on Wilders resume. I don't think there were much better fighters than Fury on Wlad's resume but he fought all mandatories for 10 years something that Fury never did. Yet I think Fury is rated too high based on him not giving Klitscko the rematch that he deserved, which would help define Klitschko status better as well. In my opinion for Wilder only having Ortiz on his resume is too thin to be counting the 3 fights with Fury as amongst the HW rivalries of the ages.

I understand this perspective. Important to note that during his long reign as heavyweight champion according to the World Boxing Council, Wilder met and defeated every mandatory challenger offered by the WBC, then engaged one of the two alternative champions of his era, which Joshua never did before his losing spree against underdogs. And when doing this, Wilder managed a Draw. He made as many successful title defenses as counter-champions Joshua, Ruiz and Usyk combined, fishing from the same pond.
And Otiz, one of the best of the era, Wilder KOd twice, first time as an undefeated challenger.

When we drop the purposed critique, it's not as bleak.

[El_Mero]

Not sure how u rate Fury as high as you do. This is a weak era of Heavys.

[elfag]

Fury suprised Klitschko with playing tag for 12 rounds and went insane when he had to contractually fight him again so went on a coke binge as an excuse. Wlad could have tailored his gameplan specifically for that pathetic performance, and Fury knew this thats why he faked his meltdown. Was counted out in Wilder 1, a Wilder that went life and death with 45 y/o Ortiz, and only fought cans that were fed to him by Al Haymon. Now he fights Usyk but again the size difference plays a major factor here, the only thing that keeps him on top. Would lose against most fighters on that list prime for prime.

So what youre saying is wlad cant adjust during the fight, but then you grand him an imaginary hypothetical win in the rematch. lmao

[Atypicalbrit]

His top 3 wins would be:

Ending Wladamirs 10 year reign, Wlad was top 10 P4P ranked at that time

Ending Wilders unbeaten streak and 10 defence reign

Ending Usyk's undefeated streak and Usyk is top 2 or 3 P4P

And he would have done ALL THREE as the betting underdog.

You can put asterisk there but Lewis gets credit for beating a Holyfield and Tyson who were far more shop worn than Wlad or Usyk and had recent losses.

Fur would still lack a solid second tier of opponents as well as consistent form
but there would be no arguing that he beat the most important names of his era (Joshua aside but I think Fury would be granted de facto win over AJ by most tbh)

Somewhere between 5 and 10 ATG heavyweight, I don't really care where as it's very subjective but absoloutley he would be a top 10 and competetive with any heavyweight in history if he wins v usyk