CONFIRMED: Crawford vs. Israil Madrimov next
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It isn't about numbers, it isn't about rankings. It's about the FIGHTER. And you're clearly just a biased fan because this is what you had to say about Boots
"Boots is largely an untested contender, just like the rest of them So what if Bud beats him? You know as well as I do that Boots would turn into a hypejob who failed when he stepped up, and Bud would get no credit BECAUSE BOOTS HAS NO RESUME. He's not a money fight BECAUSE HE HAS NO RESUME. He's got zero casual appeal"
So you're telling me Madrimov is proven, tested, has a resume, and has casual appeal more than Boots?
Wait a minute, you also said this about Bivol
"A win against a natural middleweight and a hypejob weight bully who got a title in possibly the weakest division in the sport do not make for a resume. You're probably one of the ones who thinks that Charlo was a good win for Canelo, or that Bud coming up 3 divisions would be a good win. You'd give him credit for that too. Bivol has zero wins against a current champion in his own division, let alone being able to move up the ranks"
So you're telling me Bivol beating Canelo is not legit but Bud beating Madrimov is legit? Have several seats
I'm not saying Madrimov is proven, tested, etc. As in, I literally haven't said that. But he's obviously a better win than anyone at 147, because he is a ranked champion in a higher division. If Fundora, Spence, Charlo, and Canelo are all busy, he's literally the next highest ranked champion in a new division. Bud would become a 5 division champion, joining the likes of ATG's Thomas Hearns, Sugar Ray Leonard, Oscar De La Hoya, Floyd Mayweather, and Manny Pacquiao. That's it. That's the whole list. Getting a title at 154 puts him in that company. It's literally history making.
Boots ducked him several times and has the belt that rightfully belongs to Bud that he already won. What I said is fact. If he fought Bud, and Bud won back the belt that was already his that he never lost in the ring, he'd get dismissed as a hypejob by NSB. You know this as well as I do, even if you don't want to be honest with yourself. And I previously listed nearly twenty ranked guys that Boots hasn't fought. You declined to mention that relevant detail.
Madrimov, with a fraction as many fights, has more ranked contenders on his resume than Boots. Which you'd know, if you actually followed boxing. You're just trying to cover your ignorance for not knowing who he is. That's like saying Inoue only has 23 fights so he's not all that, or that Loma couldn't fight, etc.
As for the Bivol fight, I was one of the people that thought people were sleeping on Bivol, and that, given fair judging, he likely ought to be favorite vs Beterbiev. That was a response reframing Bivol's career in the same terms that that dope was framing Spence's career, to demonstrate the inconsistency of the argument, even though I'm on record saying Spence was always overrated. And it's literally factual, to boot. Canelo was a good win, and I'm on record saying so. But it can't make Bivol P4P #1 by itself, which was the point of that thread. But you conveniently left out that context. Two wins, plus Joe Smith Jr, do not make for a P4P #1 over the guys who are ahead of Bivol on every credible list. I doubt you'll find even one list that has Bivol ahead of Bud, Inoue, and Usyk. Most lists don't even have him ahead of Canelo, FFS.
Now you're trying to say it's the fighter, not other relevant details. But that's the whole point. If you had actually been following boxing, you'd know that Madrimov is a good fighter. You'd know his skill set. Have you ever even watched him fight even once? Based on your other posts, I really doubt you have the background to actually assess skills on your own. That's why the rankings are important here. Independent rankings by people who are in the business of assessing boxers indicate that Madrimov is a good fighter at 154. The fact that you don't understand that really says everything. You seem to think that because you don't know who he is because you don't follow boxing, that your ignorant opinion should outweigh the expert opinions of people who do it for a living. It's arrant ******ity. Go watch some tape and educate yourself. Maybe go take a class so you at least can have a beginner's understanding. And take some classes on reading too, because your comprehension sucks.Comment
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No, what the hell are YOU talking about.
In no way am I saying Israil is not a good fighter. But he has 11 fights and doesn't have stand out talent. Bud said he only wants big fights. Are you going to try to convince me this is a big fight? Are you trying to convince me that Madrimov has shown anything that says he should be in the ring with Bud?
BOXING SCENE LOGIC
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IT IS that ****** waiting for a fighter with a scheduled fight, instead of fighting your own fights yourself or looking for immediate fights.Comment
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what great timing it could be for the uzbek, if he can put in a performance v bud even if he loses, if the saudis are interested he will get paid very well for giving bud a foothold in a new division, lots of other options have closed for bud & time is ticking for him too, he needs to stay activeComment
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I'm not saying Madrimov is proven, tested, etc. As in, I literally haven't said that. But he's obviously a better win than anyone at 147, because he is a ranked champion in a higher division. If Fundora, Spence, Charlo, and Canelo are all busy, he's literally the next highest ranked champion in a new division. Bud would become a 5 division champion, joining the likes of ATG's Thomas Hearns, Sugar Ray Leonard, Oscar De La Hoya, Floyd Mayweather, and Manny Pacquiao. That's it. That's the whole list. Getting a title at 154 puts him in that company. It's literally history making.
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Originally posted by jaded
He only drops his hands when he's out of range, and he's pretty fast. He's athletic as hell...this should be a really good fight.Comment
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