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  • Muh Fans Calling For Fights.

    Does anyone truly think Fans have any power to call fights ?

    ...and that they don't get made because some guys on the internet aren't making a big enough noise...Seriously ???

    I've read a few tines how because nobody is calling for a Parker AJ rematch, that its not worth putting on.

    But no one was calling for AJ to face his sparring partner when Wilder was there for the taking.

    And no one was calling for AJ to face Ngannou nor was anyone calling for Fury to face him either.

    Its just a convenient excuse for the Fast Eddie's, Fisheyes and Haymons of the sport to cherry pick and duck the real fights people want to see.

    And by real i mean the best Boxers fighting the best Boxers while they're still the best.

    Ask yourself this. Would you rather see AJ and Parker square off in a rematch 6 years on from their first dubiously refffed match...

    ...or watch AJ crush cans and perform in crossover exhibitions while avoiding legit contenders for the next year ?


  • #2
    Parker just got put on his ass twice by a 40 year old who barely threw any punches over 12 rounds.

    He doesn't stand a hope against AJ. Dreamworld.

    Much better fights for Parker, like Zhang 2 or Joyce 2. Both 50/50 at this point.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by M312 View Post
      Parker just got put on his ass twice by a 40 year old who barely threw any punches over 12 rounds.

      He doesn't stand a hope against AJ. Dreamworld.

      Much better fights for Parker, like Zhang 2 or Joyce 2. Both 50/50 at this point.
      AJ can only dream of such confidence in himself as you do Champ!

      If Zhang had hit AJ like he did Parker it would have been game over and lights out for Joshua.

      But of course AJ didnt fight Zhang. Oh and he never exposed or shut out Wilder either. He ducked them.

      But back to the point of the thread...

      How much fan power do you think we have in calling for fights ?

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      • #4
        We ain't worth a ****, that's why Jake Paul is a boxer.


        Fans, real fans, fans who watch consistently, do not matter. Casuals is where the money's at. So, if fans have any say it ain't us. It's the kids who watch Jake and such nonsense. Back when Money was Money plenty of dudes only watched Money. That's Money's money. He ain't give a **** about us. Jake ain't give a **** about us. Franny ain't come over because he gives a **** about what we think. Casuals is who matter.


        People repeating promoters is the dumbest **** ever. Who, in this, whose job is it to lie and spin news to you to make them look best? That the role of the bodies? Fans? TV/Stream scros? Alright, who is it that pays bodies to allow fighters to break their rules and retain their belts? Cool, and who is it that puts up roadblocks for fights we want now? Oh but Eddie, Bobby, and Kathy, give a flying **** about what you want to see?




        Ain't you bitches ever notice 30 meh fights IS in fact worth more than one big one? As long as you leave that big one to carrot.

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        • #5
          Fans have zero influence on what fights are made.
          No sense in crying and debating and arguing why other fans are against or for so and so fight
          as if your opinions matter. They've never been since time immemorial.
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          • #6
            Good business is always predicated on what the market will bear. Fan knowledge is fed by clever marketing. These things are true in boxing.
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            • #7
              If fans calling for fights don't influence promoters, then why are you constantly calling for AJ to fight Parker?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by kafkod View Post
                If fans calling for fights don't influence promoters, then why are you constantly calling for AJ to fight Parker?
                Because there was some controversy over the reffing in the first fight, given it was a unified title match and because 6yrs later they've both earnt the right to face off again.

                Its foolish to think my protestations make any difference to a promoter. Do you honestly believe Hearn or Warren are going to risk AJ or Dubois against Parker just cos i want them to ?

                Those shonky mofos are too busy desert whispering in the Turkis ear, picking his pocket and blowing smoke up his most excellent ass.

                Surely the pennies dropped for the deep pocketed camel jockeys now and they've grown bored of AJ headlining a can crushing and putting on exhibitions.

                AJ v Parker 2 is definitely the fight to make especially if Dubious and Hrgy are lined up next.


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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Marchegiano View Post
                  We ain't worth a ****, that's why Jake Paul is a boxer.


                  Fans, real fans, fans who watch consistently, do not matter. Casuals is where the money's at.
                  Amazing how many people don't understand that the real money comes when there's casual appeal. Of course, the casuals have zero interest in the week to week matches. But those aren't on ppv either, unless it's PBC. So I suspect normal matchmaking, in which they put on the fights that develop their fighters as far as they can get, and who will sign for what fight, and who will pay to put on those smaller fights, determines most of that.

                  Just look at Beterbiev v Bivol. That one didn't get made for years because there wasn't enough casual appeal to make it without Saudi money, so nobody wanted to pay for it. I think Arum flat out said there wasn't money to be made from that fight, so it wasn't worth the risk.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post

                    Amazing how many people don't understand that the real money comes when there's casual appeal. Of course, the casuals have zero interest in the week to week matches. But those aren't on ppv either, unless it's PBC. So I suspect normal matchmaking, in which they put on the fights that develop their fighters as far as they can get, and who will sign for what fight, and who will pay to put on those smaller fights, determines most of that.

                    Just look at Beterbiev v Bivol. That one didn't get made for years because there wasn't enough casual appeal to make it without Saudi money, so nobody wanted to pay for it. I think Arum flat out said there wasn't money to be made from that fight, so it wasn't worth the risk.
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                    I believe there's money to be made just not enough to satisfy greedy promoters.

                    UFC ain't going broke and have picked up the casual appeal because they give the fans the match ups the fighters have earnt in a timely manner.

                    I understand the risks promoter take and the rewards also but marinating fights out of existence, ageing out fighters, obvious ducking and cherrypicking ain't gonna draw casual eyes nor do the sport justice.

                    At the recent Oscars the director for Anericam Fiction said instead of one 2 hundred million dollar movie why not make ten 20 million dollar movies.

                    Same principle can be applied to boxing but the Arums of the world know the greater the risk the the greater the reward with zero consequence to your own bottom line if it's not your money you're ponying up.

                    The Sauds aren't in the game to make money. They're in it for shïts, giggles and sportswashing their backasswards moral values and shady business dealings.

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