Heavyweights better than wilder

[JakeTheBoxer]

Wilder was scheduled to fight Povetkin in Moscow, but Povetkin failed a drug test.

Too bad that fight never happened.

[Toffee]

Wilder was scheduled to fight Povetkin in Moscow, but Povetkin failed a drug test.

Too bad that fight never happened.

I've always thought that would have ended the myth.

Imagine if Wilder got beaten in 2016. The boxing landscape would be very different.

[BoxOfficer]

Wilder was scheduled to fight Povetkin in Moscow, but Povetkin failed a drug test.

Too bad that fight never happened.

The fact that Povetkin was cleared afterwards, and he went ahead to make more "big" fights but Wilder never fought him, tells you all you need to know about Wilder.

[The plunger man]

Now everybody is jumping on hate wilders bandwagon when half the guys in this forum were saying he was the reincarnation of George Foreman …I’ve said from day one he was absolute pony.
He was protected all through his career and when you read the names he defended his titles against it’s actually shocking

[N/A]

Most of the fighters are a lot better in terms of technique. He often got outpointed before landing his right hand. That's all about him: if you can avoid or survive the right hand. The dosser never cared to face more top opponents, so he will stay questionable in what he could have achieved. Even at the end of his career, he is wasting his time.

[Atypicalbrit]

Most of the fighters are a lot better in terms of technique. He often got outpointed before landing his right hand. That's all about him: if you can avoid or survive the right hand. The dosser never cared to face more top opponents, so he will stay questionable in what he could have achieved. Even at the end of his career, he is wasting his time.

Wilder is a hillbilly from alabama

I don't think he ever would have expected to achieve what he's achieved, even if you watch him at the Olympics he was terrible and just the best American heavyweight of an extremely weak crop.

Back at that stage even his power wasn't apparent as he only had a 16% ko ratio in the amateurs.

I think most of us half expected he would get wiped out by Stiverne and never be heard of again.

So yeah, he was overrated and outside of his right hand, a bit crap, but the man can retire happy, he somehow translated his mediocre talent into being a multi millionaire and made more money than guys like Povetkin and Pulev for example who were WAY better fighters.

[dannnnn]

Back at that stage even his power wasn't apparent as he only had a 16% ko ratio in the amateurs.

That's because in the amateurs they make you fight good opponents.

[TMLT87]

Based on the eye test I think a lot of guys beat him now and quite a few guys would have beaten him even in his prime. Parker was always going to be a tough test because hes got a good chin and is athletic.

Not just singling out Wilder though, if these HWs mixed it up with each other consistently very few of them would get away with their 0 intact. If you constantly fight the best guys out there its just a fact of life that you'll run into opponents who you dont match up well with etc.

[Willow The Wisp]

How many of the men listed below have you seen fight live? How well do you understand their body of work?

Sounds to me like a slam against Wilder with nothing behind it.
After that non-performance against Parker, it's your first chance to take a swipe at Wilder since he medaled at the Olympics so I understand the timing.

But it still smacks of Yank Envy to me.


The Heavyweight Ratings of the Era 2015 - 2025. (As of March 18, 2024)

1. Tyson Fury
2. Oleksandr Usyk
3. Anthony Joshua
4. Deontay Wilder
5. Joseph Parker
6. Wladimir Klitschko
7. Andy Ruiz Jr
8. Zhilei Zhang
9. Luis Ortiz
10.Dillian Whyte
11.Joe Joyce
12.Daniel Dubois
13.Filip Hrgovic
14.Alexander Povetkin
15.Jared Anderson
16.Jarrell Miller
17.Derrick Chisora
18.Kubrat Pulev
19.Agit Kabayel
20.Charles Martin
21.Frank Sanchez
22.Martin Bakole
23.Carlos Takam
24.Johann Duhaupas
25.Robert Helenius

[daggum]

How many of the men listed below have you seen fight live? How well do you understand their body of work?

Sounds to me like a slam against Wilder with nothing behind it.
After that non-performance against Parker, it's your first chance to take a swipe at Wilder since he medaled at the Olympics so I understand the timing.

But it still smacks of Yank Envy to me.


The Heavyweight Ratings of the Era 2015 - 2025. (As of March 18, 2024)

1. Tyson Fury
2. Oleksandr Usyk
3. Anthony Joshua
4. Deontay Wilder
5. Joseph Parker
6. Wladimir Klitschko
7. Andy Ruiz Jr
8. Zhilei Zhang
9. Luis Ortiz
10.Dillian Whyte
11.Joe Joyce
12.Daniel Dubois
13.Filip Hrgovic
14.Alexander Povetkin
15.Jared Anderson
16.Jarrell Miller
17.Derrick Chisora
18.Kubrat Pulev
19.Agit Kabayel
20.Charles Martin
21.Frank Sanchez
22.Martin Bakole
23.Carlos Takam
24.Johann Duhaupas
25.Robert Helenius

first chance? hes been fighting bums and looking terrible for almost a decade now. your list is laughable. wilder has a crap resume. why would you put him so high? wilder's "greatness" was based on hypotheticals and now it looks like none of those hypotheticals are going to be fulfilled