Comments Thread For: Oleksandr Usyk Has Become The Betting Favorite Over Tyson Fury

[Oregonian]

I imagine odds have changed because a lot are buying into a sort of triangle theory.

Usyk>Aj.
Aj> Nganou
Fury struggled w Nganou

Not that I agree, but I bet that had some people thinking

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The same people say Floyd struggled with Maidana but Maidana got beat easy by Devon Alexander therefore Devon is the greatest boxer in history.

[Oregonian]

Usyk's about to expose Fury once again, if he finally dares to share the ring with him.. Fury is by far the most overrated and overhyped boxer in the history of the sport.

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So when Fury shows and beats Usyk then beats AJ, would you still call him the most overrated and overhyped boxer in history?

[Superbee]

Usyk will make Jello-Belly gasp for air ... As easy work as AJ was if not easier...

[landotter]

I never worry about betting odds. Sports books are about getting the public to perceive something and bet a certain way. Just looking at those odds it is obvious the sports books see this as a 50/50 fight and are adjusting the odds based on keeping the money coming in even so they do not lose on it. They will adjust other fights on this card one direction or the other to try and make their money on the more casual fight wagering crowd, They will throw a few dollars on the main event, but also supplement it by tossing some cash on a undercard fight that looks like a nice pay-off or a big money parlay.

It is why these betting sites LOVE the Super Bowl. No one just bets the game, nearly everyone drops multiple bets or parlays. They break even on the actual game and CLEAN UP on all the other bets.

[-Kev-]

The triangle theory at work.

Usyk beat AJ twice.

Fury struggled with Wallin and Ngannu.

AJ destroyed Wallin and Ngannu with absolute ease.

So now Usyk beats Fury.

I guess.

I still think Fury beats Usyk, but at this point Usyk has won me over and if he happens to beat Fury, i’d be okay with that. I like both fighters.

[DeeMoney]

I imagine odds have changed because a lot are buying into a sort of triangle theory.

Usyk>Aj.
Aj> Nganou
Fury struggled w Nganou

Not that I agree, but I bet that had some people thinking

[crimsonfalcon07]

I can’t shake the image of an ugly, ugly fight where Fury just lays on Usyk and grinds him down.

Don't think that's going to work on Usyk. If it were someone else, maybe, but Usyk has put in a lot of time with Papachenko, and that camp has a ton of tools for the smaller fighter in the clinch. If Fury ties up and tries to lie on Usyk, Usyk will drop weight and pull and put that weight on Fury's biceps. Then when Fury disengages, Usyk will feel the weight come off and take the moment to attack while Fury is on his heels. Fury's inside game is entirely premised on laying on his opponents. That works on people who don't have skilled wrestling, but technique matters a lot in the clinch. Take a look at Loma v Nakatani and how Loma worked in the clinch vs the taller bigger fighter in that fight.

Fury has a 7" reach advantage. I suspect he's going to have to keep Usyk on the outside or hope he can stop Usyk. If they're fighting on the inside, that will likely mean Usyk has found out how to get inside and that's bad for Fury.

[ultravividscene]

And as we’ve seen countless times, a great little man can kick a good big man’s ass: Manny Pacquiao vs. Oscar De La Hoya, Terence Crawford vs. Errol Spence, Canelo Alvarez vs. Sergey Kovalev, Roy Jones vs. John Ruiz, and on and on and on.

Except all those walked into the ring roughly the same weight... Fury will have 30+ pounds as well as the usual height advantage over Usyk on the night.

Edit: except RJJ of course - didn't clock his name at first

[4truth]

I think they are betting on Usyk beating the ill prepared bag of milk that faced Ngannou. Usyk would almost certainly win that fight but that isn't the fight they are betting on.

[Atypicalbrit]

not sure how true that is but that measurement and the measurement fury gives dont necessarily have to be the same and a lot of times when you take a physical they simply ask you whats your height?, or they measure you with your shoes on and we know fury often wears height increasing shoes. during the weigh ins and in the ring he wasnt much taller than ngannou. maybe 2 inches. not 5. if you look at jthe oshua-ngannou weigh in the height difference was about the same as fury-ngannou. is joshua 6'9 now? fury and klitschko were about the same height is klitschko now 6'9? there are photos with david price and bjorsson and they are clearly much taller than him and they are 6'8. hes obviously a tall dude but hes probably about 6'6 barefoot. people just like lying for some reason. trump says hes 6'3 when hes maybe 6'1. its some kind of ego thing. insecurity.

I don't think Fury is 6 foot 9 but he's definatley taller than AJ, Wilder and both klitschkos if only by a shade.

My best guess is 6'7.5"

Its hard to get accuracy from photos as footwear and posture make a big difference but in the ring he was clearly taller than AJ was against Ngannou and Whyte for instance.