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  • Phase III
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    #31
    Has anyone bothered to see Serrano’s opponents over the years? Besides Katie, who she fought? Her opponents over the years have been garbage and someone is trying to make it seem like she’s really accomplished something. Who, besides Katie has she ever fought? F outta her.

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    • Toffee
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      #32
      Originally posted by pnut901
      I guess that his theory is never rule out a better than average payday , especially when the fight looks easy. Wilder looked like a famine victim in his last fight. His little legs looked like they might snap whenever he took a step. Wilder didn't just look bad , he looked unwell and performed like it too.
      You're right about how he looked.

      But I don't think he ever looked any different. It's just that it was enough against limited opponents.

      I had Parker as favourite in the fight. I can't understand why team Wilder (or team Riyadh) didn't see the same.

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      • hhh1200
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        #33
        Originally posted by Phase III
        Has anyone bothered to see Serrano’s opponents over the years? Besides Katie, who she fought? Her opponents over the years have been garbage and someone is trying to make it seem like she’s really accomplished something. Who, besides Katie has she ever fought? F outta her.
        Most who have followed her over the years know she has jumped from class-class cherry-picking belt holders like Heather Hardy.

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        • Bob
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          #34
          Of course he hasn't, anyone think it's coincidence he finally sign's to fight Wilder now he's in his preferred age range of 38-41 and shot. Wlad 41 Takem 38 Pov 38 Pulev 40 Helenius 39.

          Nobody see a pattern here?

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            #35
            Originally posted by Bob
            Of course he hasn't, anyone think it's coincidence he finally sign's to fight Wilder now he's in his preferred age range of 38-41 and shot. Wlad 41 Takem 38 Pov 38 Pulev 40 Helenius 39.

            Nobody see a pattern here?
            What pattern? Wilder was offered 120 million. He said to fight Fury but Fury and Arum lied about the Wilder fight. He stopped Usyk with a body shot who once again BS'ed his way out of being counted out.

            Wilder could have fought Martin for the IBF
            Wilder could have fought Povetkin (he tested positive just like Ortiz) and Vlad
            Wilder lost to a faded version of Parker while AJ beat a primed version
            Wilder could have fought Ruiz in the last year
            Wilder could have fought Whyte after AJ
            Ortiz was offered 7 million to fight AJ and Haymon turned it down

            AJ has fought who they put in front of him and on a faster time frame and damn sure never had a baby bottle excuse.

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              #36
              “It’s a fight where everything was signed and sealed. It just needed both of us to deliver. And he didn’t meet his end of the bargain." This is so Hearn and so AJ - always the other side. Maybe AJ is considering a Wilder fight in case Ngannou ends his career in which case both dossers can face each other for some last big payday.

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              • pollywog
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                #37
                Originally posted by hhh1200

                What pattern? Wilder was offered 120 million. He said to fight Fury but Fury and Arum lied about the Wilder fight. He stopped Usyk with a body shot who once again BS'ed his way out of being counted out.

                Wilder could have fought Martin for the IBF
                Wilder could have fought Povetkin (he tested positive just like Ortiz) and Vlad
                Wilder lost to a faded version of Parker while AJ beat a primed version
                Wilder could have fought Ruiz in the last year
                Wilder could have fought Whyte after AJ
                Ortiz was offered 7 million to fight AJ and Haymon turned it down

                AJ has fought who they put in front of him and on a faster time frame and damn sure never had a baby bottle excuse.
                Joshua beat an ill-disciplined badly trained boy version of Parker in 2018.

                6 years later and he don't want none of the well trained, experienced 31 yr old warrior Parker is now.

                A-Side Joshy could have had Wilder in his last fight but chose his own sparring partner instead.

                It's not about who they put in front of AJ. Its about who he calls out.

                The guy packs his undies at the mention of Wilder or Parker.

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                • BodyBagz
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                  #38
                  There's always next leap year

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                  • Atypicalbrit
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                    #39
                    Wilder has won one fight in 4 years.

                    ​​​​​​The only way him vs AJ makes sense is if AJ loses to Ngannou or if Wilder fights someone like Andy Ruiz or something and wins then maybe it'd be justifiable.

                    I don't have an issue with what AJ is saying though, last year people were saying he was finished yet here he is one win away from an undisputed shot, similar to Joe Parker after he was knocked bandy by Joyce everyone was saying he was useless and should retire.

                    It's heavyweight boxing, you can't totally write Wilder off but on the balance of probability it's difficult to see him getting himself in a decent position

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                    • Atypicalbrit
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by pollywog

                      Joshua beat an ill-disciplined badly trained boy version of Parker in 2018.

                      6 years later and he don't want none of the well trained, experienced 31 yr old warrior Parker is now.

                      A-Side Joshy could have had Wilder in his last fight but chose his own sparring partner instead.

                      It's not about who they put in front of AJ. Its about who he calls out.

                      The guy packs his undies at the mention of Wilder or Parker.
                      I don't think there's been a single time since AJ vs Parker happened that a rematch was an obvious fight to make, except from maybe after Parker beat Wilder.

                      But if the Ngannou fight is offered you aren't going to say no I want to fight Parker in a harder fight for way less money, I mean I know you'll say AJ should have for legacy or whatever but back in the real world nobody would do that.

                      Parker is in a good spot now though, I think he's hot a winnable fight vs Zhang and I certainly don't see Zhang improving in a rematch if he loses.

                      What Parker needs to do after Zhang is sit on his position though because otherwise he will be offered Hrgovic or something and he can't keep taking these high risk medium reward fights if he wants to get back in a title fight, I like Parker but he's not head and shoulders above these guys they are all similar level so if he fights enough of them he will lose one.

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