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  • #11
    AJs stock is higher atm but its not like hes on top of the world either. Lets face it his "comeback" has been over Wallin, Helenius and Franklin. Its hardly some incredible run but people are acting like hes "back" off the basis of beating these mediocre guys.
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    • #12
      Originally posted by joe strong View Post
      Let’s see Wilder get a couple of rebuilding fights first before any judgement is made. I’d be ok with a Chisora fight then Makmudov. Chisora is durable & Makmudov is a beast who just lost to Kabayel. I would suggest Miller before big Mak but I think he has legal problems unless they have been solved.
      The problem with a couple of rebuilding fights is the glacial pace of fights happening with Wilder , a couple of rebuilding fights might take him 3 or 4 years to accomplish. By then he's 40 and AJ is 36/37.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Flap View Post
        Thanks for posting that link. Wow , that was a really cool trailer, very creative. Whoever did that is really talented.
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        • #14
          Originally posted by TMLT87 View Post
          AJs stock is higher atm but its not like hes on top of the world either. Lets face it his "comeback" has been over Wallin, Helenius and Franklin. Its hardly some incredible run but people are acting like hes "back" off the basis of beating these mediocre guys.
          Shhh.....we aren't supposed to notice that.
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          • #15
            Sure Joshua would love that payday, but Wilder is nearly 40 old rusty guy, unmotivated, with 100+ millions in the bank.

            I don' t see him taking any comeback fights after this terrible fight against Parker. His head is not in boxing anymore, he just enjoys his life.
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            • #16
              Originally posted by pnut901 View Post

              The problem with a couple of rebuilding fights is the glacial pace of fights happening with Wilder , a couple of rebuilding fights might take him 3 or 4 years to accomplish. By then he's 40 and AJ is 36/37.
              Obviously he can’t be inactive. I’m saying these rebuilding fights need to happen this year. Have one in May & August/Early September. If he can’t do that then should just retire for good.
              Last edited by joe strong; 02-28-2024, 12:24 PM.

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              • #17
                People can switch up their attitude's real quick in boxing 'Wilder if he really wants it, has opportunities and fights out there which can elevate him if he wins'.

                But the question is? Does Deontay Wilder really want to take on big challenges? Deontay Wilder in the aftermath of his loss to Parker 'Never really protested or called for the rematch' for me that was very concerning, and highlights that maybe his competitive attitude is lacking these days.

                You only have to compare Wilder's behaviour and reaction, to when he had lost fights in the past vs Tyson Fury 'Wilder in those situations, showed that he was defiant'. It was this competitive defiance, which actually made the 3rd Wilder vs Fury fight happen'.

                And as a result, Deontay Wilder even during a loss 'Gained mass credit, for his efforts in that fight vs Tyson Fury'.

                Note: One of Wilder's best attributes as a fighter, has always been his competitive attitude 'When he is faced with a actual challenge'. Wilder's power, combined with his innate agression and competitiveness, those attributes have negated the area's of his game where he is clearly not elite: I.E Wilder skill for skill as a pure boxer, nobody can really rate him in those departments as a elite level fighter'.

                This was why Deontay Wilder has always been susceptible to being out boxed 'In a straight forward, basic fight'. Parker done nothing spectacular vs Wilder, he just fought a disciplined straight forward fundamental fight.

                Historically whenever Deontay Wilder has fought a top level fighter 'If he cannot deck, or **** out that opponent'. For the majority of those fights, he would be losing rounds and being out boxed' It was inevitable, that eventually a Heavyweight fighter was going to at some point straight forward out box him easily 12 rounds like the way Parker achieved'.

                I honestly believe Tyson Fury's innate clumsiness, and tendency to make unforced errors 'That is what influenced the Wilder vs Fury trilogy, being such a mighty struggle for Fury'.

                Deontay Wilder was not beaten up, or knocked out by Joseph Parker 'Many of those fighters who fought on that fight card, are now fighting again real soon. Why is Deontay Wilder not already fighting again?'.

                The Deontay Wilder vs Anthony Joshua can still happen, if Wilder plays his part 'Still wants to fight, take on big challenges and has the desire to win'.

                It is official, and it is real 'Anthony Joshua has still got the Eye of the Tiger' nobody here can deny that..

                Anthony Joshua needs to just fights the fights in-front of him etc.

                Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 02-28-2024, 11:15 AM.

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                • #18
                  Wilder has been done ever since he left Mark Breland, & blamed him for poisoning him. That alone showed that he already had brain damage. When he made Jay Deas head trainer over Breland, he showed how dumb he really was. Jay Deas doesn't even know how to wrap hands. Wilder is done because he's dumb
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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by joe strong View Post
                    Let’s see Wilder get a couple of rebuilding fights first before any judgement is made. I’d be ok with a Chisora fight then Makmudov. Chisora is durable & Makmudov is a beast who just lost to Kabayel. I would suggest Miller before big Mak but I think he has legal problems unless they have been solved.
                    He was actually down to fight Chisora a few years ago and I bought tickets off the back of that fight on the bill but then it got mysteriously canned at the last minute due to "a visa issue" and then a couple weeks later he's on film sparring David Haye in London. absolute b/s.

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                    • #20
                      Ngannou in my opinion isn't the threat that a prime Wilder was and I'm talking his fights pre Tyson and Tyson. Fury may have taken the fight out of Wilder in that bruising trilogy , it sure looked that way. Ngannou has a decent punchers chance and won't being underrated by Ben or Joshua who will for once be facing a bigger man and one that could end his night . We've been waiting along time since the Ruiz demolition for them to put him in with someone that has a dig , lets hope he's up to it Although at 9/2 for an Ngannou KO I may just stick a cheeky ton on ! Tyson seems to have done Wilder , with Parker adding the finishing touches , nobody except Joshua wants to see the trance like Wilder in that shape again ...
                      Last edited by thack; 02-28-2024, 12:16 PM.

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