Comments Thread For: Jaron 'Boots' Ennis Files Lawsuit Against NOW Boxing, Seeking Release And Judgment In Excess Of $1,000,000

[MulaKO]

Jaron Ennis is DUCKiNG Bud Crawford
Don’t want that smoke
lmao

[Teetotaler69]

Well, yeah, like I've just explained the burden of proof is on you, the claimant, to provide evidence as to why it's true.

Yes, as also explained it's not a legal matter, I gave you that on top of the philosophical definition, which I made clear is the one that applies, just to further offer clarity as clear as possible as to why the onus is on you to provide evidence for you claim as they interwind with one another.

You've provided a source now in attempt to justify your claim. So you're getting somewhere, that's good.

Now the next step would be to unpack the contents of the evidence provided.

Jesus christ. You literally derailed the main topic from booty ennis ducking the Crawford fight to some claims and now unpacking the source that was provided. You were provided the proof by me and just ignored it. It's ok email ennis ducked a fight and there's proof. He can still potential a great fighter

[brettWall]

When it comes to Ennis news articles, it's always about something else rather than his next fight. Seven months since his last fight and you'd wonder what he and his team have been doing. A lot of people can accomplish a lot of things in just one day. Seven months and it just evaporated with nothing to show for it. Clearly, they're spending so much time carefully picking his opponent. Seven months.

[brettWall]

Really? Looks like it's mostly just in America to me.

The main non-US fighter wasting his prime is Stanionis, and that's because he waited on another American (Spence) based on vague promises.

Maybe true, but some US fighters genuinely want to fight often, the rest are deeply entrenched in this one fight a year culture that started, in my recollection, in just the last few years.

[IronDanHamza]

Jesus christ. You literally derailed the main topic from booty ennis ducking the Crawford fight to some claims and now unpacking the source that was provided. You were provided the proof by me and just ignored it. It's ok email ennis ducked a fight and there's proof. He can still potential a great fighter

I didn't derail anything I responded to the notion that the burden of proof is on the person challenging the claim and not the person making the claim.

And yes once evidence is provided then you'd need to unpack that to see if it's valid.

[Teetotaler69]

I didn't derail anything I responded to the notion that the burden of proof is on the person challenging the claim and not the person making the claim.

And yes once evidence is provided then you'd need to unpack that to see if it's valid.

What does that even mean? Especially in this situation, the father of the fighter said THEY chose not to go with the fight against bud (which would of been their highest payday ever). Wtf is there to "unpack"?

does he need to give you a call and tell you himself?

[IronDanHamza]

What does that even mean? Especially in this situation, the father of the fighter said THEY chose not to go with the fight against bud (which would of been their highest payday ever). Wtf is there to "unpack"?

does he need to give you a call and tell you himself?

It's very self explanatory. When evidence is being provided it needs to be assessed if it's valid or not.

I didn't say this wasn't, just stating that fact.

In regards to this, I'm not sure that constitutes as avoiding Crawford there. Seems to me from what I can tell that his dad is saying that Showtime would have to be involved if they were to explore that fight, not that they don't want the fight.

That said, it's not a good look really and Ennis is in no position to make demands so it's a valid point.

[dan-b]

Yes, thats exactly how it works. If I tell you that 2+2=4, I don't need to send you a link to a math site to prove it, as its common knowledge. you can either believe it, dont believe it, or research it yourself.

The bigger problem with these debates though is people (like Joseph) take it SOOOO personal. I dont know the Ennis kid. He may be fearless. I dont know. What I DO know is that HIS TEAM was offered the chance to negotiate a Crawford fight TWICE, and both times it was rejected. One time his pops turned it down, and the other time it could have been his pops, or this wack promoter, or Cameron, or whoever. All I know is that they refused negotiations both times. This has been widely reported, and in addition to media reports a good friend of mine got it directly from Bomac, and his word is definitely good enough for me.

So no, I will not spend a half hour or however long searching random sites trying to find the old stories from a year or 2 ago. I already know what I need to know to form my opinion. And anyone else is free to believe whatever they like. But in the case of Joseph, I suspect that Ennis himself could go on TV and admit it, and Joseph would still be like "they makin him say all that, he didnt really duck". So there just isnt any point it trying to have a rational conversation with someone like him........

I actually called joseph5620 out for this the other day in this post. He's of the social media generation who don't enter a discussion for an exchange of ideas but treat it as a performance to be "won" for an imagined audience.

Plus there's a whole other topic about people worshipping public figures which we can save for another time.

[MulaKO]

I actually called joseph5620 out for this the other day in this post. He's of the social media generation who don't enter a discussion for an exchange of ideas but treat it as a performance to be "won" for an imagined audience.

Plus there's a whole other topic about people worshipping public figures which we can save for another time.

It’s quite sad cause he’s arguing facts
But still seems to go against them when pointed out
Told him life’s to damn short
Boots in his mind can do no wrong

[dan-b]

I didn't derail anything I responded to the notion that the burden of proof is on the person challenging the claim and not the person making the claim.

Yes and then went on to labour the point somewhat. So what began as an interesting aside turned into pretentious grandstanding.