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If a fighter REFUSES to fight someone that called him out unless "the money's right" - is that a DUCK? Yes/No?

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  • #61
    Originally posted by Combat Talk Radio View Post

    Let's focus on the bold.

    SO what you're saying is, when Bozy Ennis rejected the BLK Prime offer for his son to fight Crawford because it was being funded by BLK Prime which would have been a breach of Boots' contract rights to Showtime, that was NOT a duck...right?
    No your saying that , the example of Joshua you used was proving to not be a duck because Wilder ducked that fight from the start .

    BLK Prime didn’t have any stipulations on fighters fighting on other networks so I have no idea what your talking about .

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    • #62
      Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post

      No your saying that , the example of Joshua you used was proving to not be a duck because Wilder ducked that fight from the start .

      BLK Prime didn’t have any stipulations on fighters fighting on other networks so I have no idea what your talking about .

      You're exposing yourself.

      You said that Joshua wasn't ducking because his refusal would have been a breach.

      That means Boots wasn't ducking because his refusal would have been a breach.

      OR

      You're wrong, and Joshua WAS ducking regardless, so then Boots was ducking.

      Either way, let's be consistent.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Combat Talk Radio View Post


        You're exposing yourself.

        You said that Joshua wasn't ducking because his refusal would have been a breach.

        That means Boots wasn't ducking because his refusal would have been a breach.

        OR

        You're wrong, and Joshua WAS ducking regardless, so then Boots was ducking.

        Either way, let's be consistent.
        Get off the crack .

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        • #64
          Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post

          Get off the crack .
          Just admit you're a hypocrite.

          It's like Gary Coleman said above - when it's your guy, you flip the script.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by maguirre View Post
            Frank Martin was offered $1 million, who he confirmed, not $10 million. His last paycheck when he fought Harutyunyan was $250K.
            Frank Martin wanted to walk away with a million dollars. Shakur offered him like either a million or 1.5 something like that. And when he saw what he was walking away with after taxes and his team getting their piece it was far less than a million dollars. That’s why he turned the fight down.

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            • #66
              All the fighters you've listed would've been fighting for career high payday.

              Of course they're a ducks, if you really believe you're the goods and you're offered a career high payday why wouldn't you take the fight other than being a shíthouse and ill advised.

              Note how all the people you've listed have one thing in common.

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              • #67
                Context matters but I generally consider "muh A side", "muh split" a form of ducking.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Boro View Post
                  Note how all the people you've listed have one thing in common.
                  They're all American?

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                  • #69
                    It depends.

                    Was the offer reasonable considering both fighters contributions to the projected sales? Or was an an ultra low ball?

                    Were they just being greedy and going to fight some bum for 10-20% of a reasonable offer for a big fight?

                    Were there any crazy demands attached, like an unreasonable weight drain, short notice, other clauses ect?

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by dan-b View Post

                      They're all American?
                      No, they're all PBC fighters and advised by Al Haymon I thought that was obvious by the "ill advised" comment...

                      Why on earth would them being American have anything to do with their "ducking", their promotional ties however...
                      Last edited by Boro; 02-07-2024, 07:38 AM.

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