If a fighter REFUSES to fight someone that called him out unless "the money's right" - is that a DUCK? Yes/No?

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  • Combat Talk Radio
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    #1

    If a fighter REFUSES to fight someone that called him out unless "the money's right" - is that a DUCK? Yes/No?

    What say ye, NSB? Once and for all?

    And be careful how you vote. Because remember: you said
    - Danny Swift and Keef both DUCKED Crawford because they wanted "too much money"
    - Wilder DUCKED Joshua for turning down $50 million
    - Frank Martin DUCKED Shakur for turning down $1 million
    - Rolly DUCKED Cryan for turning down $5 million

    Etc etc etc.

    So are all those that I listed, ducking? That's the question.
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    It's Ducking
    52.63%
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    It's not ducking, it's business
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  • maguirre
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    #2
    Frank Martin was offered $1 million, who he confirmed, not $10 million. His last paycheck when he fought Harutyunyan was $250K.

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    • MulaKO
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      #3
      Why don’t you explain why Boots refused to fight Bud not once but twice ?
      Why don’t you explain why Boots was about to become Bud’s mando but took another route ?
      Why ?
      Just tells us why Leicesterage do you call Bud a sucker ?
      Then tell others to watch what they think but you won’t the simplest question ?
      Why ?

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      • MulaKO
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        #4
        Originally posted by maguirre
        Frank Martin was offered $1 million, who he confirmed, not $10 million. His last paycheck when he fought Harutyunyan was $250K.
        Yeah but 10 sounds better and it helps out with his agenda
        What’s wrong with you ?
        Wanna bet he doesn’t answer cause that’s not how the script goes ?

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        • bballchump11
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          #5
          It depends on the amount really and if the offer is reasonable. There are definitely some double standards going on.

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          • Atypicalbrit
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            #6
            To me it's contextual.

            If you are a world champion and another world champ or top contender is calling you out then yeah it's a duck.

            If you are a world champion or a big name and a unknown guy is calling you out then no because chances are you have better ad more lucrative fights avaliable and the guy calling you out is really just begging it.

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            • Roadblock
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              #7
              In a career of say 40 fights a guy has 300 callouts , it seems all easy to call duck 260 times and you can bet some fan did for every one of the 260 non events.

              A real duck is infinitely more complex than saying no to a callout, the mentality around the term Duck comes from schoolboy machoism of somebody is scared.

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              • MulaKO
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                #8
                Originally posted by Roadblock
                In a career of say 40 fights a guy has 300 callouts , it seems all easy to call duck 260 times and you can bet some fan did for every one of the 260 non events.

                A real duck is infinitely more complex than saying no to a callout, the mentality around the term Duck comes from schoolboy machoism of somebody is scared.
                Leicesterage calls Bud a duckster
                But refuses to answer simple questions
                I wonder why lmao

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                • Oracle01
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                  #9
                  Nah its more complex than that. its usually a couple of things. A clear classic duck so far would be Canelo v Benavidez, where the money is no issue refusal to even negotiate.

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                  • maguirre
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                    #10
                    Standard should be when the actual official offer is made. Not some made up nonsense, mind you. Then that's when negotiations start either on media or behind the scenes. Meaning, counter offers can be made. It's then up to neutral observers (not biased fans) to figure who is lying, making things up, hence avoiding the fight. If there are no offers made, there's no ducking involved.

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