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  • BodyBagz
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    #81
    So....when is he going to write his sappy memoir

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    • JakeTheBoxer
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      #82
      Back then Kell was just desperate for big money fight, because other top dogs at 147 ducked him.

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      • techliam
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        #83
        Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
        Porter, Golovkin, Spence Junior.

        Were all Brook's best fights, and performances.

        I would say, that? His fight vs Golovkin as bad match making 'And since then Eddie Hearn has learnt from that period in his career'.

        There was completely no need to put Brook up against Golovkin 'Brook should of just stayed at 147 pounds, and in all honesty? Just defended his WBC World Welter Weight Championship, against whoever'.

        I believe there was pressure on Brook at the time, to be involved in bigger events 'For me those events would of naturally occurred, long as he stayed Champion at 147 pounds'.

        Note: Gennady Golovkin was a great fighter, but? He has never been a superstar like Floyd Mayweather Junior, Canelo Alvarez or Manny Pacquiao 'If Brook was to beat Golovkon, was he going to stay at 160 pounds and defend the belts? Most likely not'.,

        The fight was definitely bad matching making from Eddie Hearn, and that fight did effectively destroy the trajectory of Kell Brook's career. Brook may have performed better if he had a few fights at 160 pounds, he would of physiologically accustomed and conditioned himself to the weight class better.

        The night Brook fought Golovkin, it was not the skill level of Golovkin which he could not compete with 'It was the power and brute strength'. I don't think the power and brute strength would of been such a dramatic shock, if Brook would of had 1 to 2 fights at 160 pounds before fighting Gennady Golovkin.

        Kell Brook skill for skill has never really be out competed in my opinion, by any fighter he has stepped inside the ring with 'Brook was right there with Crawford, skill for skill. Until the stoppage'.

        Those three fights Porter, Golovkin, Spence Junior, are Kell Brooks best performances 'And I can personally his potential and ability in all three of those fights'.

        Since the retirement of Joe Calzaghe, the best fighters athletically and skill for skill the UK has produced were David Haye for sure and possibly Kell Brook 'On pure ability in their best form, those are the best two fighters the UK has produce since Joe Calzgahe' Amir Khan is up there as well.

        The best overall fighters since Joe Calzaghe's retirement have been David Haye, and Carl Froch 'When you really compare their feats of achievement against fighters in and around their era, they were the best. Tyson Fury to date has for me not really surpassed them' etc.
        Brook was IBF champion
        I remember around that time, there was a deal almost struck for Brook vs Vargas for the IBF/WBO titles

        I think it was a very winnable fight for Brook, and his career trajectory would have been totally different

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          #84
          Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
          Back then Kell was just desperate for big money fight, because other top dogs at 147 ducked him.
          Can't anyone who never stepped use that same line ?

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            #85
            Originally posted by techliam

            Brook was IBF champion
            I remember around that time, there was a deal almost struck for Brook vs Vargas for the IBF/WBO titles

            I think it was a very winnable fight for Brook, and his career trajectory would have been totally different
            When 1 can't secure a fight with #1, who does that guy fight instead ?

            Prior to Porter, who is there ?

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            • PRINCEKOOL
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              #86
              Originally posted by techliam

              Brook was IBF champion
              I remember around that time, there was a deal almost struck for Brook vs Vargas for the IBF/WBO titles

              I think it was a very winnable fight for Brook, and his career trajectory would have been totally different
              Eddie Hearn has learnt from that mistake in match making 'Completely no need for Brook to fight Golovkin'.

              Who was the main attraction at that fight, Brook or Golovkin? Kell Brook was the main attraction.

              Gennady Golovkin is and was a great fighter 'But he just was not the kind of mega star, which a fighter two weight classes below jumps up to fight'.

              At the time when the fight happened, during the aftermath? I stated that 'This is why fighters like Kell Brook need people around them, who will protect them from themselves'.

              'Hearn since then has obviously learnt more about the art of match making. This is clear with his fighters such as Anthony Joshua of late i.e Wallin & Ngannou is great match making, because those wins create a narrative and apply pressure to Tyson Fury'.

              Kell Brook just seemed to be under a lot of pressure, to hurry up and take big fights at the time 'When really he should of just held track position, with his IBF Welter Weight World title'.

              You have to wonder whether Ingle, had any apprehensions about the fight? It was still for me one of Brook's best performances, he just should of had more fights at 160 pounds to condition himself more at the weight.

              That night was most likely his peak form, 'Ingle was stating that, Brook at this weight is one of the best fighters he had ever trained. In his on words' etc.

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              • brettWall
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                #87
                He needed a lot of time for his next fight after his disastrous adventure with Golovkin, but was pressured to fight with still lingering injury issue.

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                • Jack_sh*t
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by STREET CLEANER

                  It was an annoying fight, he had enough skills not to do that but that holding was excessive. If you are a fan of his you won't mind all the holding, the same way I felt about Porter coming with his head in. The ref didn't do their jobs.
                  I'm a fan of the sport, but I agree with your comment on the ref.

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                  • brettWall
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by garfios
                    The tragic part is that he had a real excuse for not taking the fight, and he was pressured to fight, they might told him that he was going to lose his belt, look at the Charlo's and Company, take them years to defend their titles and nothing happens.
                    Tragic part was Brook was never praised for moving up 2 divisions and fighting the number one guy. In contrast, 6 feet tall Jermell Charlo was praised to high heavens. He's stepping up doe.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by brettWall
                      Tragic part was Brook was never praised for moving up 2 divisions and fighting the number one guy. In contrast, 6 feet tall Jermell Charlo was praised to high heavens. He's stepping up doe.
                      its absolutely tragic

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