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  • Originally posted by garfios View Post
    Time will tell, and please ryder is a domestic level fighter just like the others. I do not care about plant, and if he couldn't make weight and move up, then we have to count the beating he took from ggg legit, now why the he moved down if he knew he was going to take not one but two beatings? Money. I can tell you this about the Cubans, with all the hardship they endure trying to get out their country, most of them old by professional standards they have done quite well, Rigondeaux was avoided like the plague and he was already old, I'm pretty sure quidd and frampton were two of them, Gamboa in his prime not even mickey garcia want want to fight him, Lara has a great career and was robbed a few times, who else? Hernandez was a Champ too, retired do to injuries, JC Gomez is the CW with more defenses, you stay long enough and don't duck nobody chances are you're going to lose one of this days. Now the good thing that this new wave has in their favor is youth, and you haven't here of the majority of them, you only know about Morrell Jr because he is on the fast track, wait a couple of years and you will see.
    Nah, they were "Crap" and "Exposed". Forget about any context. Isn't that right? That's what you did. But now you want to bring context into things. You're a hypocrite as well. It's actually laughable the level of it and your unawareness of it. Seriously. For the record, the fighters i'm talking about were ducked as well. If you want to know by whom, just ask.

    You do care about Plant. You claimed he was not only better than them (He isn't even close) but is world class. I've seen you make that claim plenty of times.

    Kell could have stayed at Welter for a few more fights and make weight without being compromised. But then he'd have to move up to LM. Not Middle. Jeez, do you even know how to think in a rational manner? It doesn't seem you can. The Spence fight didn't even bring in that much money. But he took it because of how long it took him to get the title in the first place. He didn't just want to give it up without a fight. It's called having pride. But no, just put it down to money and nothing else with your simplistic ways and ignorance.

    I'm aware of a few Cubans out there like Robeisy who lost his first pro fight but was still hyped like crazy. He then loses to a past prime Dogboe but got a grotesque gift and had a KD called when it was clear it wasn't. He then wins his next fight only to get ripped off. But don't tell me, you're going to describe him differently and not in the way you did the likes of Saunders and call him crap? Robeisy's resume is not even close to Saunders either. If Saunders is crap, he's pure garbage.

    I'm aware of Andy Cruz too. But again, i don't see big things there either regardless of the hype. It will be as predictable as it always was. A couple of Cubans have surprised me like Casamayor and Lara. But they're not the usual. The usual is, a load oh hype only for them to be wiped out without achieving anything of any real substance. But there's you calling better and more proven fighters crap and domestic level. Absolute delusional. You sound like a typical American or Mexican.

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    • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

      Nah, they were "Crap" and "Exposed". Forget about any context. Isn't that right? That's what you did. But now you want to bring context into things. You're a hypocrite as well. It's actually laughable the level of it and your unawareness of it. Seriously. For the record, the fighters i'm talking about were ducked as well. If you want to know by whom, just ask.

      You do care about Plant. You claimed he was not only better than them (He isn't even close) but is world class. I've seen you make that claim plenty of times.

      Kell could have stayed at Welter for a few more fights and make weight without being compromised. But then he'd have to move up to LM. Not Middle. Jeez, do you even know how to think in a rational manner? It doesn't seem you can. The Spence fight didn't even bring in that much money. But he took it because of how long it took him to get the title in the first place. He didn't just want to give it up without a fight. It's called having pride. But no, just put it down to money and nothing else with your simplistic ways and ignorance.

      I'm aware of a few Cubans out there like Robeisy who lost his first pro fight but was still hyped like crazy. He then loses to a past prime Dogboe but got a grotesque gift and had a KD called when it was clear it wasn't. He then wins his next fight only to get ripped off. But don't tell me, you're going to describe him differently and not in the way you did the likes of Saunders and call him crap? Robeisy's resume is not even close to Saunders either. If Saunders is crap, he's pure garbage.

      I'm aware of Andy Cruz too. But again, i don't see big things there either regardless of the hype. It will be as predictable as it always was. A couple of Cubans have surprised me like Casamayor and Lara. But they're not the usual. The usual is, a load oh hype only for them to be wiped out without achieving anything of any real substance. But there's you calling better and more proven fighters crap and domestic level. Absolute delusional. You sound like a typical American or Mexican.
      You're out of mind if you think Robeisy lost to dogboe, You're the hypocrite not me, I do not care about plant but I do think he's better than saunders, smith and ryder, haven't see none of the Cubans exposed because they were never hyped like you say. Please watch Ramirez cs dogboe again, he got schooled.

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      • ******est career move i've ever seen

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        • Originally posted by garfios View Post
          You're out of mind if you think Robeisy lost to dogboe, You're the hypocrite not me, I do not care about plant but I do think he's better than saunders, smith and ryder, haven't see none of the Cubans exposed because they were never hyped like you say. Please watch Ramirez cs dogboe again, he got schooled.
          You clearly can't score a fight to save your life and behave exactly like the Mexicans when it comes to corrupt score cards. They justify them no matter how insane. The fact you think Robeisy schooled him says everything. But please, give me the rounds Robeisy won? When i give you the actual punch stats, you're going to have to come up with even more ******ity to double down. I've already clowned another poster over this very fight. I'll happily do the same to you. Robeisy was actually out-landed in most rounds. That is a fact that can be verified by the evidence.

          Robeisy was hyped like crazy just like Gamboa and others only to prove pretty much nothing.

          In what way is Plant better than Saunders? Who has he beaten to come out with such laughable nonsense? He hasn't beaten a single world class opponent. Anyone who was anybody, beat him.

          Cubans always get hyped by the likes of you. What are you talking about? And yes, they always get exposed and nearly all of them pretty much prove either very little or absolutely nothing. You're always hyping Morrell who has proven nothing all over this forum.

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          • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

            You clearly can't score a fight to save your life and behave exactly like the Mexicans when it comes to corrupt score cards. They justify them no matter how insane. The fact you think Robeisy schooled him says everything. But please, give me the rounds Robeisy won? When i give you the actual punch stats, you're going to have to come up with even more ******ity to double down. I've already clowned another poster over this very fight. I'll happily do the same to you. Robeisy was actually out-landed in most rounds. That is a fact that can be verified by the evidence.

            Robeisy was hyped like crazy just like Gamboa and others only to prove pretty much nothing.

            In what way is Plant better than Saunders? Who has he beaten to come out with such laughable nonsense? He hasn't beaten a single world class opponent. Anyone who was anybody, beat him.

            Cubans always get hyped by the likes of you. What are you talking about? And yes, they always get exposed and nearly all of them pretty much prove either very little or absolutely nothing. You're always hyping Morrell who has proven nothing all over this forum.
            You said, punch stats like boxing is a basketball game. Please man, there's wasn't a controversial fight, who, besides you is claiming robbery?
            here you go, your punch stats
            https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...erweight-title
            Last edited by garfios; 02-05-2024, 08:44 PM.

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            • Originally posted by garfios View Post
              You said, punch stats like boxing is a basketball game. Please man, there's wasn't controversial fight, who, besides you is claiming robbery?
              How do you score a fight then? Robeisy was out-landed in most rounds proving that TopRanks bullshlt stats are just that... Bullshlt. But if you have other criteria, tell me in detail what criteria you use?

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              • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

                How do you score a fight then? Robeisy was out-landed in most rounds proving that TopRanks bullshlt stats are just that... Bullshlt. But if you have other criteria, tell me in detail what criteria you use?
                Check the stats, and please watch the fight again. Sometimes we're soo bias that we don't see clearly. Who else is with you in this robbery thing?
                https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...erweight-title

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                • Originally posted by garfios View Post

                  Check the stats, and please watch the fight again. Sometimes we're soo bias that we don't see clearly. Who else is with you in this robbery thing?
                  https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...erweight-title
                  I'm not asking for THEIR stats. I'm asking you for YOUR stats. But it seems you want to deflect. What's wrong? Can't you count punches landed?

                  You still haven't given me your criteria for winning a round other than punches landed.

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                  • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

                    I'm not asking for THEIR stats. I'm asking you for YOUR stats. But it seems you want to deflect. What's wrong? Can't you count punches landed?

                    You still haven't given me your criteria for winning a round other than punches landed.
                    I'm not deflecting anything, you're the one that mentioned the stats, the fight was a very clear and unanimous win for RR, I don't even know why I'm discussing this with you, whom seems to be the only one claiming robbery.

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                    • Originally posted by garfios View Post

                      I'm not deflecting anything, you're the one that mentioned the stats, the fight was a very clear and unanimous win for RR, I don't even know why I'm discussing this with you, whom seems to be the only one claiming robbery.
                      I mentioned the fact that TopRanks stats are bullshlt. Look at their punch stats and then count the punches yourself from the fight video. Do they match? They don't come close. It was a robbery.

                      Which rounds did you have for Robeisy?

                      TopRank are corrupt to their core. Always the American or the Mexican win on their shows. All international fighters get ripped off. Their biggest international fighter even got ripped off after winning in lopsided fashion with Pacquiao against Bradley. I mean, who can you think of where the international fighter lost a fight in the US but still got the victory against a Mexican or American fighter? I have 1 fight historically with Pacquiao against Marquez. But can you think of another? Exactly. When it comes down to two internationals with Arum, it's all about who the most valuable is to him. Nothing more.

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