Comments Thread For: Junior Dos Santos: Ngannou Showed That MMA Fighters Can Hang With Boxers

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Former UFC heavyweight champions Junior Dos Santos and Francis Ngannou were once foes in the MMA cage, but the two of them are now very respectful of each other.
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[Teetotaler69]

Fury fvkcing disgraced us.

[Boxviewer]

Greedy Belly is the most overrated boxer in the history of the sport. People have hyped him since he destroyed a heavily limited and weak one-trick pony Wilder. The same people are making an excuse for him and say he that he wasn't well prepared for the Ngannou fight while the guy himself has said that he had a great 6 weeks camp for the fight. It's so pathetic. Usyk is going to expose him more. Mark my words.

[Raimondo]

If we talk about hw eras , this hw era is a weak one. Francis is a big strong fighter who came to fight and Fury thought its a cakewalk.lol

[TMLT87]

To an extent yeahh. At the end of the day combat sports in general have such tiny talent pools, plus with boxing/MMA/kickboxing/muay thai there are transferable skills, so occasionally yeah you will get guys who can hang at a decent level.

[Atypicalbrit]

People who say this heavyweight era is weak will tell you that a 6'2" 212lbs "big" George foreman would have walked down, traded with a man 60lbs heavier who has the hardest recorded punch in history and Ko'd the 6'4" 271lbs Ngannou

I'm telling you he wouldn't lol.

[Madison Boxing]

i think its more how bad the heavyweights are, usyk is the only one really who can actually box and his natural weight is cruister.... most of them look a fat mess and wilder got to world champion level with a big right hand and no boxing ability... ngannou just needed one camp and was already in the type of shape a heavyweight should be and that was enough to go toe to toe with who was considered the best in the division.... jake paul has been beating high level MMA guys in boxing (admittedly they were getting on in age) and i find it very hard to believe that a UFC champ could outbox terence crawford or devin haney

[Toffee]

He didn't show that. He showed that Ngannou can hang with Tyson Fury. Nothing more.

[Atypicalbrit]

i think its more how bad the heavyweights are, usyk is the only one really who can actually box and his natural weight is cruister.... most of them look a fat mess and wilder got to world champion level with a big right hand and no boxing ability... ngannou just needed one camp and was already in the type of shape a heavyweight should be and that was enough to go toe to toe with who was considered the best in the division.... jake paul has been beating high level MMA guys in boxing (admittedly they were getting on in age) and i find it very hard to believe that a UFC champ could outbox terence crawford or devin haney

People have been complaining about how "bad" the heavyweight division is for the entire time I've been alive, it's been relentless and all the heavyweight champions during my lifetime with the sole exception of Mike Tyson have only ever been respected after they retired.

The skill level at heavyweight is of course lower because most of these guys are over 240lbs and can't athletically do the things smaller fighters can do. It doesn't mean the smaller guys (outside of rare exceptions like Usyk) can beat them. Just look at Gassiev vs Wallin for what happens 99% of the time you put a good cruiser vs a good heavy.

Usyk is 6'3" 222lbs, that is BIGGER than prime George Foreman let alone Joe Frazier and Ali, it's also bigger than Tyson and Holyfield, he's an exception with his skill level but we will find out in a few weeks if even with his skill level he can over come a truly big man who uses his size like a big man should (because AJ doesn't he boxes like a smaller man) .

Heavyweight is a LOT more about physicality than the other divisions are, and that's the reason that Ngannou had success.

Ngannou is very likely the strongest boxer EVER. And I mean that.

I suppose maybe Valuev might be stronger, I don't know.

When you are that freakishly strong, have the hardest recorded punch on history, an iron chin, half decent stamina, AND you are up against a guy who is NOTORIOUS for underestimating opponents and turning in dreadful performances in fights he expects to be easy, and yes you are going to do well.

Add in the fact Ngannou is a pure striker who's UFC game was 95% punches, and yeah, he transitioned to boxing very well.

The smaller UFC guys that Jake Paul ko'd were like the equivilent of if Fury fought Brock Lesnar, a retired 40+ year old ufc guy who wasn't good with his hands even in the UFC.

[landotter]

People have been complaining about how "bad" the heavyweight division is for the entire time I've been alive, it's been relentless and all the heavyweight champions during my lifetime with the sole exception of Mike Tyson have only ever been respected after they retired.

The skill level at heavyweight is of course lower because most of these guys are over 240lbs and can't athletically do the things smaller fighters can do. It doesn't mean the smaller guys (outside of rare exceptions like Usyk) can beat them. Just look at Gassiev vs Wallin for what happens 99% of the time you put a good cruiser vs a good heavy.

Usyk is 6'3" 222lbs, that is BIGGER than prime George Foreman let alone Joe Frazier and Ali, it's also bigger than Tyson and Holyfield, he's an exception with his skill level but we will find out in a few weeks if even with his skill level he can over come a truly big man who uses his size like a big man should (because AJ doesn't he boxes like a smaller man) .

Heavyweight is a LOT more about physicality than the other divisions are, and that's the reason that Ngannou had success.

Ngannou is very likely the strongest boxer EVER. And I mean that.

I suppose maybe Valuev might be stronger, I don't know.

When you are that freakishly strong, have the hardest recorded punch on history, an iron chin, half decent stamina, AND you are up against a guy who is NOTORIOUS for underestimating opponents and turning in dreadful performances in fights he expects to be easy, and yes you are going to do well.

Add in the fact Ngannou is a pure striker who's UFC game was 95% punches, and yeah, he transitioned to boxing very well.

The smaller UFC guys that Jake Paul ko'd were like the equivilent of if Fury fought Brock Lesnar, a retired 40+ year old ufc guy who wasn't good with his hands even in the UFC.

I have zero idea why you are bringing up fighters from the past to contrast with today's athlete. The conversation is about TODAYS boxers against TODAYS MMA fighters. What people are saying is that as TODAYS era of HW fighters are not a deep talent pool that helps MMA fighters to cross over to compete better. It matters not a little bit what size the 80's and 70's era of HW were for if UFC was a thing back then, they would have been the same basic size as the same era of boxers. Pick a sport, today's athletes in Football, basketball, hockey, track and field, water polo and freaking bull riding are all bigger than even 20 years ago, much less 30-40 years ago.

As about every other poster has stated, all we know is an out of shape Tyson Fury who only gave a 60% effort did not look great against Ngannou. Period. No other UFC fighter gets to claim anything over any other boxer. As I do not think any boxer can step in the cageand beat any top 10 rated UFC fighter, I hold no UFC fighter walking into the squared circle has a prayer against any the top 10 reeated boxers. It is a silly concept. Different disciplines.