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  • #51
    Originally posted by M312 View Post

    Interim title has no value without a real title shot coming... That belt is meaningless. The only way Zhang gets considered is if he KOs Wilder to make himself a star so the Saudis put up the money.

    Also, rematch clauses don't always mean much. If Fury gets knocked out for example, really wouldn't be a surprise to see him hang them up or take an interim fight. But yeah, nobody has denied the rematch clause is built in.
    As I recall, Interim titles guarantee an upgrade to full titlist if the champion won't/can't fight you. The one that needs to get the title shot are the guys with "mandatory" shots.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post

      As I recall, Interim titles guarantee an upgrade to full titlist if the champion won't/can't fight you. The one that needs to get the title shot are the guys with "mandatory" shots.
      Yup. Interim titles were originally when a champion was injured and unable to take on the mandatory, so an interim title would be given until the champion is fit again.

      But we know Usyk is active, so the interim title is totally meaningless. It's just for sanctioning fees and to attach 'WBO' to an otherwise meaningless fight.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by M312 View Post

        Yup. Interim titles were originally when a champion was injured and unable to take on the mandatory, so an interim title would be given until the champion is fit again.

        But we know Usyk is active, so the interim title is totally meaningless. It's just for sanctioning fees and to attach 'WBO' to an otherwise meaningless fight.
        Well, no disagreement there. Just as whoever wins the IBF belt after the winner of Fury v Usyk gets stripped is a fake champ until and unless they beat the real champ.

        Although lots of people still called Haney a real champ even though he got elevated by email and the real champ, Loma, was fighting a unification... For me, he wasn't a real champ until he beat Kambosos, who beat the man who beat the man.
        Last edited by crimsonfalcon07; 01-10-2024, 04:03 PM.
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        • #54
          Originally posted by denium View Post
          And if Fury knocks out the man who schooled AJ twice, what will everyone think then?
          That will cast the division in a different light to if he loses. He'll be a legitimate undisputed champion
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          But just as a win for Joshua v Ngannou won't change the fact that Joshua v Fury is a good fight, a win for Fury v Usyk won't either. It's a good fight.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Flap View Post

            Fury's best win is against a guy who didn't win a round against Parker.

            Parker is an AJ leftover.

            Weird how narratives work.
            Didn't realise Parker shut out the unified champ Klitschko

            I must've missed it.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post

              Is that how battles are won, throughout history of conflict on this planet ? You win one fight, then just get off while your competitor is still not conclusively defeated? At no point in human history has any battle been won in this manner.

              Wladimir Kiltschko was a Champion of close to 10 years, Kiltschko had never lost a rematch 'He was not just some fighter, who had just won a Champion and defended it once. Wladimir Kiltschko was a mountain within the Heavyweight Division, and it was a injustice that he was not able to attempt to win his titles back from Tyson Fury'.

              Tyson Fury lost his titles technically when he did not turn up to fight Wladimir Kiltschko in their scheduled rematch 'Unfortunately due to his circumstance'.

              Nobody is spinning anything, those are the facts of boxing history.

              Anthony Joshua stepped up in his 19th professional fight vs Wladimir Kiltschko 'Which was the greatest Heavyweight title fight of the past 25 years, and conclusively took the Heavyweight Division into a new dynasty' etc.




              Joshua fought a 40 year old legend coming off of a loss and a year layoff. Joshua beat a contender, not the champion

              that's the actual truth. Not my opinion
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              • #57
                Originally posted by Flap View Post

                Fury's best win is against a guy who didn't win a round against Parker.

                Parker is an AJ leftover.

                Weird how narratives work.


                Wlad was a Fury leftover
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                • #58
                  Sometimes Eddie's **** is just ******.

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                  • #59
                    Eddie Hearn talks absolute bulls**t and Anthony Joshua can't talk because he's a roadman/wasteman from Watford - otherwise known as a GOOFY clown.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Hustle View Post

                      Joshua fought a 40 year old legend coming off of a loss and a year layoff. Joshua beat a contender, not the champion

                      that's the actual truth. Not my opinion
                      Tyson Fury pulled out of his scheduled rematch with Kiltschko twice 'The fight was rescheduled twice, and Fury pulled out of that fight two times' Unfortunately due to his circumstance.

                      Kiltschko initiated his rematch clause vs Fury, and had to endure three back to back training camps 'Because Fury kept on pulling out of their scheduled rematch'.

                      Wladimir Kiltschko during this entire time was training, preparing to actual fight Tyson Fury 'Kiltschko never retired, and was arguable in better condition for Joshua than he was for Tyson Fury. Kiltschko weighed in at 245 pounds vs Fury, compared to 240 pounds vs Joshua'.

                      Wladimir Kiltschko was the Champion of close to 10 years, Wladimir Kiltschko had never lost a rematch 'It was a injustice, that he did not get the opportunity to attempt to win his World titles back vs Tyson Fury.

                      The facts are mate, Fury did not turn up to conclusively fight off Wladimir Kiltschko 'Fury did not turn up to fight the battle, that is what happened you know this'.

                      Anthony Joshua beat the version of Wladimir Kiltschko who Fury should of fought in his scheduled rematch 'Joshua stepped up and won the battle that Fury started, Joshua is the Heavyweight who took the Heavyweight Division into a completely new Dynasty'.

                      Joshua beat up and knocked out Kiltschko, in the greatest Heavyweight title fight of the past 25 years 'Fury did not do this, Fury won one fight over the distance then disappeared'.

                      People may try their best to deny this, but that is precisely what happened.

                      All these years later, Fury has just fought Ngannou 'Fury did not win the fight, Fury was given the decision'.

                      Once again Anthony Joshua is stepping up to fight a battle which Tyson Fury started vs Francis Ngannou 'Somebody, some Heavyweight out there has to legitimately beat Francis Ngannou and not just be given a decision'.

                      EVERYONE within the boxing community is in agreement with this point.

                      It is 2024, and Anthony Joshua is stepping up 'To fight off Francis Ngannou for real, because Tyson Fury did not do this'.

                      Note: Tyson Fury's win over Wladimir Kiltschko is a mega win, in terms of historical significant 'But Fury is not the Heavyweight who conclusively took the Heavyweight Division into a completely new Dynasty. Anthony Joshua was that fighter, Joshua was the fighter who conclusively beat up and knocked out Wladimir Kiltschko in the greatest Heavyweight title fight of the past 25 years. Joshua forced Kiltschko to retire, after displaying a all time great effort. Not Tyson Fury' etc.


                      Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 01-10-2024, 06:27 PM.

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