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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/bo...-training.html

You mean this guy, who looked like this at 41? Yup, all kinds of flab on there.

Not to mention, everyone has exactly the same genetics. Floyd's totally an apples to apples comparison. Yup.

Floyd has the lean musculature you would expect from a fighter in those pics.

He doesn’t look like some huge bodybuilder, at an age when you’re supposed to be starting to lose muscle. Compare a younger Ngannou to the older version.


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[IronDanHamza]

I already addressed it, Dan. The man is nearing 40 yet heavily muscled at over 270 pounds with little body fat.



Floyd was never excessively muscled and cut like that as he neared 40.

That’s my answer. If you don’t like it too bad, stop pestering me about it then.

Ok I don’t know if you’ve noticed but you already said that.

This was my response;

Ngannou is assuredly on PED’s due to physique + age. First and foremost that is a ****** reason to assert someone is “assuredly on PEDs” but let’s continue.

Yet, Mayweather, who has an incredible physique, in fact he is substantially more cut than Ngannou is, was older than Ngannou is now when he was P4P #1, did 12 rounds for 15 years straight without every getting tired, was a clean athlete?

Explain how both of those can be at the same time?

You can run like a coward but you can’t hide. When you make statements they need to be justified.

[IronDanHamza]

Floyd has the lean musculature you would expect from a fighter in those pics.

He doesn’t look like some huge bodybuilder, at an age when you’re supposed to be starting to lose muscle. Compare a younger Ngannou to the older version.


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Ngannou doesn’t look like a body builder either. He looks like a Heavyweight fighter with good genetics. Or are you going to now tell me that it’s not possible to achieve Ngannou’s physique without PEDs?

Mayweather’s physique at age 38 is extremely su****ious, as are a plethora of things surrounding his career.

We have WAY more reason to suspect Floyd of PED use than Ngannou.

But yet, you say one is assuredly on PEDs with no evidence whilst the other is “clean”

Are you going to elaborate as to how?

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Ok I don’t know if you’ve noticed but you already said that.

This was my response;

Ngannou is assuredly on PED’s due to physique + age. First and foremost that is a ****** reason to assert someone is “assuredly on PEDs” but let’s continue.

Yet, Mayweather, who has an incredible physique, in fact he is substantially more cut than Ngannou is, was older than Ngannou is now when he was P4P #1, did 12 rounds for 15 years straight without every getting tired, was a clean athlete?

Explain how both of those can be at the same time?

You can run like a coward but you can’t hide. When you make statements they need to be justified.

If you noticed that I already said that then why do you keep asking me about it?

That’s my answer, that’s my stance. I don’t have to change it to suit you.

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Ngannou doesn’t look like a body builder either. He looks like a Heavyweight fighter with good genetics. Or are you going to now tell me that it’s not possible to achieve Ngannou’s physique without PEDs?

Mayweather’s physique at age 38 is extremely su****ious, as are a plethora of things surrounding his career.

We have WAY more reason to suspect Floyd of PED use than Ngannou.

But yet, you say one is assuredly on PEDs with no evidence whilst the other is “clean”

Are you going to elaborate as to how?

Good genetics.

Right, that must be the whole story.

[IronDanHamza]

If you noticed that I already said that then why do you keep asking me about it?

That’s my answer, that’s my stance. I don’t have to change it to suit you.

Because I’ve responded to that and now it’s time for you to continue to justify your stance. You demand answers from others, but can’t give them yourself?



Ngannou is assuredly on PED’s due to physique + age. First and foremost that is a ****** reason to assert someone is “assuredly on PEDs” but let’s continue.

Yet, Mayweather, who has an incredible physique, in fact he is substantially more cut than Ngannou is, was older than Ngannou is now when he was P4P #1, did 12 rounds for 15 years straight without every getting tired, was a clean athlete?

Explain how both of those can be at the same time?

You can run like a coward but you can’t hide. When you make statements they need to be justified.

[IronDanHamza]

Good genetics.

Right, that must be the whole story.

Wait, are you saying here that his physique being down to being genetically gifted isn’t a possibility?

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Because I’ve responded to that and now it’s time for you to continue to justify your stance. You demand answers from others, but can’t give them yourself?



Ngannou is assuredly on PED’s due to physique + age. First and foremost that is a ****** reason to assert someone is “assuredly on PEDs” but let’s continue.

Yet, Mayweather, who has an incredible physique, in fact he is substantially more cut than Ngannou is, was older than Ngannou is now when he was P4P #1, did 12 rounds for 15 years straight without every getting tired, was a clean athlete?

Explain how both of those can be at the same time?

You can run like a coward but you can’t hide. When you make statements they need to be justified.

Why do I have to “continue to justify my stance?”

You asked why I suspect Ngannou and not Floyd and I told you why. You can disagree with my reasons and I can most certainly disagree with why you disagree…but I don’t have to keep trying to convince your dumb ass. Who do you think you are, royalty or something?

Naw, you’re just an over sensitive PED cheat.

[IronDanHamza]

Why do I have to “continue to justify my stance?”

You asked why I suspect Ngannou and not Floyd and I told you why. You can disagree with my reasons and I can most certainly disagree with why you disagree…but I don’t have to keep trying to convince your dumb ass. Who do you think you are, royalty or something?

Naw, you’re just an over sensitive PED cheat.

Cheat? How exactly am I cheating?

Ok and your reasons don’t make logical sense hence why I’ve responded to them and am awaiting your justification.

That’s usually how it goes, you make a claim, you’re asked to justify it and when someone responds you then respond to that.


Are to going to respond or are you going to continue to run from it?

Firstly, are you saying it is not possible to reach Ngannou’s physique without PED use?

And secondly, Ngannou is assuredly on PED’s due to physique + age. First and foremost that is a ****** reason to assert someone is “assuredly on PEDs” but let’s continue.


Yet, Mayweather, who has an incredible physique, in fact he is substantially more cut than Ngannou is, was older than Ngannou is now when he was P4P #1, did 12 rounds for 15 years straight without every getting tired, was a clean athlete?

Explain how both of those can be at the same time?

You can run like a coward but you can’t hide. When you make statements they need to be justified.

[IronDanHamza]

Wait, are you saying here that his physique being down to being genetically gifted isn’t a possibility?

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This also needs answering.