Comments Thread For: Robert Garcia on Training Vergil Ortiz Again Ahead of 154-Pound Debut: '[It's] as If Nothing Ever Happened.'

[ShoulderRoll]

Well, that is just patently false.

Further showing how totally clueless you are on the topic of PEDs.

PEDs don’t necessarily have anything to do with rhabdomyolisis in all the CrossFit cases or in Vergil Ortiz’s case. That isn’t false.

[IronDanHamza]

PEDs don’t necessarily have anything to do with rhabdomyolisis in all the CrossFit cases or in Vergil Ortiz’s case. That isn’t false.

You have no way of knowing that.

There is a connection between PED use and rhabdomyolisis.

You have no idea if anyone who’s suffered from it due to CrossFit were also using PEDs or not.

And in Vergil Ortiz’s case, you also have no idea if his rhabdomyolisis is due to PED use.

For you to dismiss it like that is just pure ignorance, a running theme in your case.

[IronDanHamza]

Some folks are just obsessed with hurling disgusting PED Claims at innocent folks when its bozos like BAUMGARDNER, BIG BABY & others right there who need to be spoke on and banned

No one has said he’s on PEDs.

Just that there is a connection between rhabdomyolisis and PED use.

To act like there isn’t is just false, frankly.

[ShoulderRoll]

You have no way of knowing that.

There is a connection between PED use and rhabdomyolisis.

You have no idea if anyone who’s suffered from it due to CrossFit were also using PEDs or not.

And in Vergil Ortiz’s case, you also have no idea if his rhabdomyolisis is due to PED use.

For you to dismiss it like that is just pure ignorance, a running theme in your case.

You have no way of knowing if PED use led to rhabdo for Vergil Ortiz or any of the CrossFit crowd. It might have, but it also might not have.

Thats why I said that PED use doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with it.

[IronDanHamza]

You have no way of knowing if PED use led to rhabdo for Vergil Ortiz or any of the CrossFit crowd. It might have, but it also might not have.

Thats why I said that PED use doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with it.

Exactly, it might have been it might not have been.

All the poster did was speculate that it could be PED use, which it absolutely could be.

So why are you dismissing it like it’s not possible? It could very well be due to PED use.

[dan_cov]

Of course he is on PEDs do people think that aggression & intensity is normal? lol

[ShoulderRoll]

Exactly, it might have been it might not have been.

All the poster did was speculate that it could be PED use, which it absolutely could be.

So why are you dismissing it like it’s not possible? It could very well be due to PED use.

Given that Ortiz struggles to cut weight and has suffered dehydration and fainting from that, plus his known penchant for hard workouts and being a gym rat, why wouldn’t one attribute his rhabdo to that? Instead of jumping to PEDs first?

[Teetotaler69]

Possibly, either way as I said in my first post ruining his body to be a weight bully

Can you give other examples of fighters getting that being a weight bully?

As well as a source to him having it cause of PED's? Cause they're are a bunch of fighters on steroids back then and now that didn't have what ortiz has.


Also the fvkcing irony of you calling out a fighter for being on steroids when the guy in your sig failed tests

[Teetotaler69]

Of course he is on PEDs do people think that aggression & intensity is normal? lol

Yeah he should be boring af like the guy hankey you love lmao

[IronDanHamza]

Given that Ortiz struggles to cut weight and has suffered dehydration and fainting from that, plus his known penchant for hard workouts and being a gym rat, why wouldn’t one attribute his rhabdo to that? Instead of jumping to PEDs first?

Well, firstly the likelihood of those two things being the reason are equal to one another. There’s no reason to put one ahead of the other.

Secondly, those three things you just named would suggest PED use.

But that’s besides the point, you dismissed it was PED use when it could very easily be just that. Just as easily as any other reason.

Infact you’ve accused people of being “assuredly on PEDs” for way less.