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  • #41
    Originally posted by Mr Giggles View Post
    In fairness to Wilder, he is 38, and been inactive for 2 years, so had ring rust. He would’ve beaten Parker a few years ago. The fury trilogy decimated him, he took a whole load of punishment in those fights, the kind of punishment that shortens a persons career considerably
    I really don't think he would have.

    There wasn't just a small margin between them. Wilder looked ridiculous in with a genuinely decent fighter - he looked like an unranked novice.

    Wilder was the PBC champ. They developed him into a name, and they built up opponents surely to feed them to him. Credit where it's due - it worked.

    Yes he had that one punch power, but everyone in the division can knock guys out if they swing for the fences. Granted, he delivered against reasonable opponents, but never against genuine decent heavyweights. They wouldn't put him anywhere near one until they saw Fury as an easy chance of gaining credibility. They got that one wrong... and they misjudged this one terribly.

    You saw tonight what he really is. Decent fighters chased him for years because they knew what they were seeing.
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    • #42
      Originally posted by Toffee View Post

      I really don't think he would have.

      There wasn't just a small margin between them. Wilder looked ridiculous in with a genuinely decent fighter - he looked like an unranked novice.

      Wilder was the PBC champ. They developed him into a name, and they built up opponents surely to feed them to him. Credit where it's due - it worked.

      Yes he had that one punch power, but everyone in the division can knock guys out if they swing for the fences. Granted, he delivered against reasonable opponents, but never against genuine decent heavyweights. They wouldn't put him anywhere near one until they saw Fury as an easy chance of gaining credibility. They got that one wrong... and they misjudged this one terribly.

      You saw tonight what he really is. Decent fighters chased him for years because they knew what they were seeing.
      To be fair though Wilder wasn't even fighting how he usually does. He was fighting going backwards and not showing any urgency at any point other than the last round. He was not even throwing a jab something that he usually does. I think not only the fury fights took part of his soul but also the layoff was not a good idea. He is also 38 accumulated with everything else we just mentioned. I really don't even understand thr gameplan for this fight. He should have been throwing the jab and not moving as much as he was. He should have been using the uppercut more also against the smaller parker.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by vaborikua2014 View Post

        To be fair though Wilder wasn't even fighting how he usually does. He was fighting going backwards and not showing any urgency at any point other than the last round. He was not even throwing a jab something that he usually does. I think not only the fury fights took part of his soul but also the layoff was not a good idea. He is also 38 accumulated with everything else we just mentioned. I really don't even understand thr gameplan for this fight. He should have been throwing the jab and not moving as much as he was. He should have been using the uppercut more also against the smaller parker.
        There's no doubt age and inactivity played a part. But it's not like he ever really worked off a jab. He fought overmatched fighters who he could simply shove his left at to measure them up for the right.

        Fury aside (who we should be honest, beat him 3 times) only Ortiz was a name worth mentioning. And he gave him everything he could handle.

        Plenty of us just never saw it with Wilder. This feels like massive confirmation. Parker isn't elite right? But he shut him out. That's a huge gap in ability - it very rarely happens.
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        • #44
          Originally posted by Mr Giggles View Post
          In fairness to Wilder, he is 38, and been inactive for 2 years, so had ring rust. He would’ve beaten Parker a few years ago. The fury trilogy decimated him, he took a whole load of punishment in those fights, the kind of punishment that shortens a persons career considerably
          Wait a minute, before the fight you didn`t realize he was 38 and inactive? You expected him to KO Parker, right?
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          • #45
            Originally posted by daggum View Post
            they protected him with easy fights his entire career. he was never a top guy. guys like parker, whyte, joyce, etc...were always a tier above. joshua way above. should have taken that money still
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            • #46
              Father time caught up with the Bronze Bomber. Also ring rust from being too long in idle.

              Y'all must've forgot he is 38 as well... maybe a 35 y/o Wilder would've knocked out Parker. The man still holds the highest knockout ratio in Heavyweight boxing today, but he lost tonight, fair and square.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by MikeyMike100 View Post

                When he knocked out Ortiz twice, beat Stiverne for the title and nearly knocked out Fury twice
                Really?!?!

                Ortiz was 48 and failed a heart blood pressure test before the fight. Dude still won EVERY round until he ran out of energy. He shouldn't have even been allowed to fight.

                Stiverne (lol)

                And 'nearly'... hah. Funnily enough, I agree losing 3 times to Fury is the best he's ever done.

                Shot and beaten to a pulp Parker is the best boxer hes faced outside Fury and he was exposed again.

                The guy is awful.

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                • #48
                  He obviously has a massively inflated record even by boxing standards. 15 years in the game, nearly 50 fights and his career defining wins are against a 39/40 year old Luis Ortiz who is himself mostly a can crusher. It says a lot when Parker, who isnt even all that good, is a top 3 career opponent for him.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post

                    Yes it does. You can't call Wilder overrated and claim it doesn't affect Fury's resume. That doesn't even make sense. You're trying to praise Fury and trash Wilder without any affect on Fury's resume. You can't have it both ways.

                    No evidence that Wilder was better 2-3 years ago either. He fights the exact same way. If anybody is extremely overrated it's Fury. Wilder was never in the ATG discussion in the way Fury has been and he clearly doesn't belong in it.
                    Wilder will remain under question how good he was. Because that punch is unquestionably dangerous for everyone, a fighter will always consider such a thing.

                    No, I am not praising Fury - Fury, for me, is a top talent who didn't use it at max, while Wilder remains, as I said, a question.

                    Wilder was better before - see how hesitant he was last night? Too passive, inactive. He wasn't like that. I agree that he didn't improve his boxing, but that's a little different.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by M312 View Post

                      Really?!?!

                      Ortiz was 48 and failed a heart blood pressure test before the fight. Dude still won EVERY round until he ran out of energy. He shouldn't have even been allowed to fight.

                      Stiverne (lol)

                      And 'nearly'... hah. Funnily enough, I agree losing 3 times to Fury is the best he's ever done.

                      Shot and beaten to a pulp Parker is the best boxer hes faced outside Fury and he was exposed again.

                      The guy is awful.
                      He was obviously protected but he was a legit threat in his prime. Elite height, reach, speed, power, stamina and heart. He's obviously limited and I don't think he was ever the best heavyweight in the world but he was a very good fighter.

                      I compare him to someone like Gerry Cooney

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