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  • #21
    Originally posted by M312 View Post

    When?

    He hasn't ever beaten a good boxer. And has lost so many rounds v no hopers.
    When he knocked out Ortiz twice, beat Stiverne for the title and nearly knocked out Fury twice

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    • #22
      Originally posted by MikeyMike100 View Post

      When he knocked out Ortiz twice, beat Stiverne for the title and nearly knocked out Fury twice
      Stiverne was awful, did you see how he won the WBC vacant? He was getting soundly outboxed by 40 year old Ray Austin then lands one big shot and ko'd him late.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by BoxingOutlaw View Post
        Wilder went from loading beer to the HW champion to about 6 years.
        Tells you all you need to know about the crappy horrendous HW division.
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        • #24
          Originally posted by fifth_root View Post

          Wilder 2-3 years ago was better, so it doesn't reflect on Fury's resume having Wilder a bit old. He is overrated indeed or at least missed the time to prove that he is indeed good.

          By the same logic, Wallin beating Gassiev makes Usyk's record less good.
          Yes it does. You can't call Wilder overrated and claim it doesn't affect Fury's resume. That doesn't even make sense. You're trying to praise Fury and trash Wilder without any affect on Fury's resume. You can't have it both ways.

          No evidence that Wilder was better 2-3 years ago either. He fights the exact same way. If anybody is extremely overrated it's Fury. Wilder was never in the ATG discussion in the way Fury has been and he clearly doesn't belong in it.
          Last edited by joseph5620; 12-23-2023, 08:52 PM.
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          • #25
            He’s always been trash, they just protected him from anyone who could box well.
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            • #26
              "So passes Deontay, son of Fury"

              TO THIS DAY!!!!!
              Last edited by ijudge; 12-23-2023, 08:55 PM.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Spray_resistant View Post

                Stiverne was awful, did you see how he won the WBC vacant? He was getting soundly outboxed by 40 year old Ray Austin then lands one big shot and ko'd him late.
                My point is that Wilder was a legit top 5 heavyweight for several years.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post

                  Yes it does. You can't call Wilder overrated and claim it doesn't affect Fury's resume. That doesn't even make sense. You're trying to praise Fury and trash Wilder without any affect on Fury's resume. You can't have it both ways.

                  No evidence that Wilder was better 2-3 years ago either. He fights the exact same way. If anybody is extremely overrated it's Fury. Wilder was never in the ATG discussion in the way Fury has been and he clearly doesn't belong in it.
                  Wilder was clearly better 3 years ago. Those Fury fights took a lot out of him.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by MikeyMike100 View Post

                    My point is that Wilder was a legit top 5 heavyweight for several years.
                    Its a trash division then because he is awful in all regards other than a right hand.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Spray_resistant View Post

                      Its a trash division then because he is awful in all regards other than a right hand.
                      He's like what David Tua was.

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