Devin Haney rehydrated to 165 lbs

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  • Smash
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    #81
    wow holy crap

    thats why we need fight nights weights as standard to see whats going on with these guys

    it shouldnt be allowed actually, just because u can do it and your opponent cant/wont doesnt make it right i dont think

    he could be basically 1 or 2 classes bigger than his opponents all the time, its crazy stuff really

    bills right, we need to crown devin and quick, he needs a special WBC REhydrator belt made up as soon as & if someone wants to outdo it, well u know the figures

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      #82
      Originally posted by Spray_resistant

      But he had the disadvantage of having to cut and rehydrate which for alot of fighters is depleting, Prograis didn't do that. If fighters can do it with no ill effects its their natural advantage like being a hard puncher. Haney is young doe...so kinda like after a hard night of drinking cutting and blowing back up will have less of an effect naturally than it typically would an older fighter.
      Are we acting like Prograis isn't also a weight bully? He missed weight twice a few years ago and said was struggling to make 140 and had to get a nutrionist in to keep making it. And he weighed in fight night nearly at 157, just cause Haney put on a lot, Prograis getting a pass for putting on 16.8lbs, if they were fighting ibf rules they would have been limited to 10lbs rehydration.

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        #83
        Originally posted by tonysoprano
        You can’t legit gain 25lbs overnight. Something ain’t right, either he’s using something to get the weight off or something to put the weight back on.
        Technically I think its more like a day & a half.

        Wheres the line on how much one gains in 1.5 days without help? I mean Devin gained 25lbs. Regis gained 17.8lbs. They are #1 & #2 on that whole show of % bump from weigh in to fight night.

        I think this is more about guys being at unnaturally low weights at weigh ins more than guys are doing sketchy sh^t in the ring. I mean the way Devin boxed that night it would seem like gaining a few extra lbs isn't doing him a whole lot of good anyway. There is a sport within the sport of being able to get your weight as low as possible at the weigh in that everyone is playing to varying degrees & its for sure not great for the sport, but til there is a better agreed upon way to do this it is what it is.

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          #84
          Originally posted by Smash
          wow holy crap

          thats why we need fight nights weights as standard to see whats going on with these guys

          it shouldnt be allowed actually, just because u can do it and your opponent cant/wont doesnt make it right i dont think

          he could be basically 1 or 2 classes bigger than his opponents all the time, its crazy stuff really

          bills right, we need to crown devin and quick, he needs a special WBC REhydrator belt made up as soon as & if someone wants to outdo it, well u know the figures
          I agree fight night weight should be a commission standard thing for any event.

          And I think there should be some kind of boundaries put on how close the fighters are in weight IN THE RING.

          They say common sense isn't so common & exhibit A in boxing with that I'd argue is the fact everyone cares what weight you are 36ish hours before the fight, but not what you weigh in the ring when you are hitting each other in the fooking head.

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            #85
            Originally posted by Gary Coleman

            That's the only way to stop this foolishness. It would also be healthier for the fighters to be fighting at their real weights and not having to cut down as much.
            Sounds good in theory. It didn't work great in practice. Having guys cutting weight closer to fight time leaves the brain at more risk. This is why we don't see nearly as many deaths & serious injuries in fights as we have in the past. If same day weigh ins came back you are gonna see a lot more ring deaths.

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              #86
              haney may well be a bigger guy in the ring than both boots and crawford right now its possible, would be interesting to know those 2 fight night weights too

              maybe he should fight these guys, how about that bill lol

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                #87
                what about weighting fighters just before they enter the ring, like a jockey getting on a horse before a race which is done to make sure the race is fair

                if u dont make the weight then the event still goes on but u have to pay a penalty (heavy) sliding scale depending on how fat u are to the other guy

                before u say thats not fair, as he could be bigger than him as a result, well, they are bigger already at least u get paid for it lol

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                  #88
                  Not hard to see him calling out Jermell Charlo in no time.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Smash
                    what about weighting fighters just before they enter the ring, like a jockey getting on a horse before a race which is done to make sure the race is fair

                    if u dont make the weight then the event still goes on but u have to pay a penalty (heavy) sliding scale depending on how fat u are to the other guy

                    before u say thats not fair, as he could be bigger than him as a result, well, they are bigger already at least u get paid for it lol
                    This would require boxing to be a sport first instead of a business first is the thing. And we all know thats not the way it is. No one who's getting $1M is gonna wanna risk 20% of their purse, lets say, if they are over some limit & I'd argue some guy who's getting $100k shouldn't get a $200k bump cuz a guy is over. The main draw being over doesn't make fans wanna see the B side guy more. Or if a guy is getting $100k & is over the A side guy who's getting $1M isn't gonna give a fook if he gets an extra $20k over the B side being over. So it sounds good, but idk that it makes sense or solves the problem.

                    Ultimately for me this is a safety thing over a money thing & should be treated as such. There should be sanctionable weight differences & unsanctionable weight differences at the weigh in AND on the day of the fight. If things don't line up at the weigh in or on fight day the fight shouldn't happen. And that should result in a suspension from boxing. The loss of purses for both guys & the promoter is what it is & is the cost of doing business.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Boxing 112

                      Are we acting like Prograis isn't also a weight bully? He missed weight twice a few years ago and said was struggling to make 140 and had to get a nutrionist in to keep making it. And he weighed in fight night nearly at 157, just cause Haney put on a lot, Prograis getting a pass for putting on 16.8lbs, if they were fighting ibf rules they would have been limited to 10lbs rehydration.
                      There are no weight bullies, if fighters miss weight they're penalized and if they make weight they can weigh whatever they want in the ring given they made whatever 2nd weigh in weight requirement if any.

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