Comments Thread For: Bill Haney: Devin Is No. 1 P4P; How Much Credit Can We Give Crawford For [Spence] Fight?

[Str8.2.Da.Point]

"At The End Of The Day", Prograis was at his healthy weight - he just didn't show up. Loma healthy weight, Haney got the W when he wasn't supposed to or expected to because Loma didn't show up.

Again, if Crawford beat a depleted Spence, the credit goes down. Just like you guys said about Caneloweight and Tank/Cryan. Let's be consistent

Stop all the crying.... There was nothing depleted about Spence... He just got his ass whooped. Doctors checked him out before the fight. He was cleared. No injuries. He was actually promoted to be in the best shape he's ever been in due to his nutrition and time to get ready for the fight......People sound like clowns trying to down play reality. None of this garbage was an issue before the results of that night....Now all of a sudden Crawford shouldn't be credited for doing something that NO OTHER FIGHTER IN HISTORY was able to do which is hold ALL BELTS OF THE DIVISION twice in his career as he moved up.

[Str8.2.Da.Point]

Haney deserved a top 5 spot but believing that he should be above Crawford or Inoue or Usyk is laughable. I personally don’t think he’s over Teo right now. Hopefully they fight and we can see what it is.

Haney shouldn't be above Canelo, Fury, or Charlo (Mel) either.....

[Str8.2.Da.Point]

Yeah, difference is Crawford just beat Spence to pieces while Haney beat Loma in a close fight most people thought he lost.

You are rewriting history, Haney was supposed to beat Loma up and was favourite, Loma was coming from a SD meh win vs Jermain effing Ortiz, also 135 is not Loma best weight, 130 is. Haney had 36 hours to rehydrate and was the younger, bigger guy undisputed champ of the division. He had everything on his side, yet they arguably drew...

But hey, Bud started taking titles at 135 just like Haney, he is just 7 pounds north to Devin now so if he and his dad are about that smoke...they can start call him out and prove who is the P4P king in the ring uh?

They run into Crawford too much....They'll never directly challenge him because they know that phone called will be answered on the first ring. They did mention Jaron Ennis....a guy I'm not extremely high on but he is definitely talented.... Let's see if any fire comes from that smoke.

[Str8.2.Da.Point]

Boosie Ennis
Angel Garcia
Kenny 'Face Palm' Porter
Rubin Guerrero
Teofimo Lopez Sr.
Jose Benavidez Sr.

Bill is on his way to joining a very select (special) group of dads.

Damn....Kenny Porter didn't make the list......lol.

[Smash]

people go on about this undisputed stuff, but didnt haney only have to beat one guy, kambo, who is a bit better than average to get it lol

most guys never get such a gift wrapped opportunity to do that & he nearly and maybe should have lost it next fight too

haney is good but so are lots of other guys too

[Hotsauce91]

not even close

[Zaroku]

Haney is no joke.

[PRINCEKOOL]

The last real genuine skill for skill pound for pound fighter was 'Floyd Mayweather Junior'.

He was the last fighter who? You could clear see was pound for pound theoretically the best fighter in the game.

Both Floyd Mayweather Junior & Manny Pacquiao are the last real great pound for pound fighters.

Since then? I think it has not been very clear who the best fighters are, in terms of from a observation perspective 'Or even from feats of achievement'.

Note: Lets say everybody had to create a case, to prove who the best pound for pound fighter in the world was 'Oleksandr Uysk's feats of achievements within the Heavyweight Division, from a pure physiological perspective i.e Having to negate fighters out weighing him by 20- 35+ pounds thus-far in his campaign. You would have to rate his wins at Heavyweight as pound for pound great performances'.

When Usyk fought Anthony Joshua, he was fighting a very capable elite level Heavyweight who was out weighing him by 20 pounds.

I don't think Haney has displayed the physiological feats of achievement, or displayed the highest levels of overall game 'In order to quite compete with fighters such as Terrence Crawford'.

We have only really seen Haney win fights, with his primary default tactics 'Haney's entire game has not been tested like Floyd Mayweather Junior's was'.

Haney is clearly a top fighter, but I don't think he has been as thoroughly tested as Terrence Crawford, Vasily Lomachenko, Canelo Alvarez, Oleksandr Usyk etc.

[SUBZER0ED]

Calm down, Bill, you're getting yourself all worked up. If your kid keeps winning against big names, the recognition will come. But all of this ranting and raving just makes you look silly.

[ShoulderRoll]

Haney is not P4P #1 but he is definitely working his way up the list.