Ward seems very bitter about his career among other things.

[Smash]

this ward ggg thing is mad, i mean its got legs of it own it seems, i literally have no idea of who did what when & ive read about it 100's of times lol

[4truth]

He said, look at me I'm a little middle-weight. So if he can't fight in 168, why he is cutting the deal for a paycheck to fight? Fine in my book for an ATG to call his BS! Weird no one is supposed to say anything to these Eastern Euro and Central Asians and we are supposed to believe every bit of BS that comes out of some of their mouths.

To compare a fight with Chavez at 168, to a fight with the best fighter at 168, is absurd.

If Golovkin were going to fight Ward at 168, the preparation (weight gain) would have probably prevented him from a successful return to 160. For Chavez, he would have been in the ring at the usual weight.

That said, Canelo wouldn't even do that, he drained hapless Julio to a skeletal 164.

[kiaba360]

Oh please.

Dre is good

I don't agree with GGG ducking him, but all he said about Canelo is that he would'nt have moved up to 175 if he'd still been there.

And he wouldn't have.

More than anything, he's just probably tired of the Canelo stans, who keep claiming he would've beaten him when he wouldn't have gone hear him.

There's no guarantee that Ward would've stayed champion long enough for Canelo to target him. In the time between Ward/Kovalev 2 and Canelo/Kovalev, Ward would've had to deal with the likes of Bivol/Beterbiev/Gvozdyk. I could see Ward using inactivity to protect his 0.

[Shadoww702]

To compare a fight with Chavez at 168, to a fight with the best fighter at 168, is absurd.

If Golovkin were going to fight Ward at 168, the preparation (weight gain) would have probably prevented him from a successful return to 160. For Chavez, he would have been in the ring at the usual weight.

That said, Canelo wouldn't even do that, he drained hapless Julio to a skeletal 164.

His best years were at MW though. Were they not? Dumb ass ruined his career. Also ggg been at 160 since birth never stepped up always looked at guys 1-2 divisions lower

[kiaba360]

Its a shame Ward wasn't regarded as one of boxing's superstars at his peak because he really was p4p the best of his time. For the record I think the best version of him would have toyed with GGG or Canelo at their best.

AB was a heavily featured fighters at the time Ward was at his peak come to think of it. People cared more about a guy who's dad brushes his hair in the ring and who posts videos of himself at Popeyes than they did very high class in ring performances by Ward.

I would've picked Ward against them too, but I don't believe these two statements are possible. Canelo/GGG aren't at their best at 168, and Ward never fought at 154-160. It simply wasn't destined for Ward to cross paths with them. People love to use "154-168" against GGG, but I go by what boxers do rather than what they say. GGG stayed his entire career at 160, and only moved up for the Canelo rematch.

[MeanestNiceGuy]

that oft used argument never ceases to impress me with its sheer ******ity.

So what?

So….Golovkin was more than willing to move up to 168 for Chavez but not Ward? Confused here…help me out. If it was just for a payday, then fine—but don’t say you’re willing to move to multiple weight classes for smoke then get quiet when a true threat answers the callout.

Fair enough?

[Clegg]

I basically agree. One thing in his defence though is that Ward and Froch both had that 'chip on the shoulder' personaiity. They often seemed to feel slighted or not given enough credit, which can sometimes make for annoying interviews but ultimately imo it led to them forcing the maximum out of their abilities, achieving as much as they could. You take away the salty edge they have and they become lesser fighters.

[AKAcronym]

So….Golovkin was more than willing to move up to 168 for Chavez but not Ward? Confused here…help me out. If it was just for a payday, then fine—but don’t say you’re willing to move to multiple weight classes for smoke then get quiet when a true threat answers the callout.

Fair enough?

He was willing to fight Ward at 168 though. The whole 164 thing was because Ward wanted 50-50, despite Golovkin having to concede more at that time and the possibility of not coming back down and missing out on Canelo. He was in a different position in 2014, where Chavez was still a big enough name and the Canelo fight wasn’t on the radar yet. Ward in 2015-2016 wasn’t really drawing that big, so he wasn’t in a position to demand that because Golovkin at the time was undoubtedly the bigger draw. I don’t agree with the 164 bull**** because Ward in all likelihood couldn’t even make 168 anymore, hence the 172 catchweight against Smith, but I understand it.

[Smash]

between the end of 2013 & end of march 2016 ward had 1 fight

the guy was totally inactive and ggg was trying to unify 160 i presume as well

maybe ggg didnt want to fight him & maybe there was just no incentive or much of an opening to do it, i cant remember

[Atypicalbrit]

My personal opinion and I'm not a ward fan at all btw but at the time that ward beat Kovalev (the 2nd time at least) If I recall correctly Kovalev was looked at as a more difficult fight than GGG especially as he was 2 weight divisions bigger than GGG.