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  • Originally posted by wrecksracer View Post

    If not for Charles Martin, AJ would be the worst Heavyweight champ in history. Everybody knows that the talent pool at heavyweight is the weakest it's ever been. If a short fat man like Andy Ruiz can starch him, so could James Toney.
    If a journeyman could dominate Toney at his best weight class, then Martin would dominate a past his best version on steroids. So would anyone else.

    If a journeyman in Young can beat Foreman, Ali and Norton, then imagine what world class fighters could do to them.

    See how your "Logic" works? Even a moron would realise their failure here.

    As for AJ being the second worst champion in history... Hahahaha. Yeah, Stiverne and the other bum in Wilder are much better. Tell me what they did will you and give me an even bigger laugh at your expense.

    Deluded isn't the word. You're straight detached from reality.

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    • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

      Ha ha, since when will wilder be favourite? When people say wilder ko s Josh in 1, 2 or 5 rounds or whatever round it is, it's only sarcasm usually? They don't really seem to mean it!
      No, Wilder is LITERALLY the favourite

      https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/d...-joshua/winner

      Not saying I don't think AJ can win but his current headpace is going to make it difficult.

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      • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

        What's wrong, have you got nothing but deflection of the point at hand? Why don't you want to tell me about Ali and Holmes amongst others with your "Logic"?

        AJ would dominate them in the same way i dominate logic and reality with the likes of you.

        Toney, the guy who was dominated by a journeyman and lost many times to scrubs? That guy? Haha. No, i'm the one laughing here. The only thing the twice proven drug cheat did at Heavy was beating a shot Holyfield. What else did he do? Win a fight by a point against Ruiz but got stripped due to failing a drug test? Even on the juice he only beat him by a point. Think about that. Actually, on second thoughts, don't bother thinking. I've seen what nonsense you come out with when you think.
        Dude, Joshua couldn't even dominate the much smaller Usyk. He lost, remember? Twice. You think he'd beat Ali and Holmes easy? Fan boy.
        Last edited by wrecksracer; 12-07-2023, 09:48 PM.

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        • Originally posted by Atypicalbrit View Post

          Joshua has every attribute needed to beat Wilder but because of his confidence Wilder will be the favourite.

          I'd like to see AJ win btw, I think if he does it will really give him a lot of confidence back that's been missing for years and a confident AJ will be good for the division.

          I just think it's a hard task because his hesitancy will give Wilder openings and time to line up the right hand.
          Where do you get this notion that AJ is lacking confidence but Wilder isn't? From all the extremists saying so? Break it down for me.

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          • Originally posted by wrecksracer View Post

            Dude, Joshua couldn't even dominate the much smaller Usyk. He lost, remember? Twice. You think he'd beat Ali and Holmes easy? Fan boy.
            When did the point become whether AJ could beat Ali or Holmes or not? Try and twist the logic all you want, i'm an expert in weirdo's with these personality traits.

            Now, let's try that one again....

            By your logic, AJ is shlt due to losing to someone smaller than himself. I'm asking you what you feel about Ali and the likes of Holmes when they lost to even smaller opponents. How about Bowe losing to the "Cruiserweight" Holyfield. How about Holyfield losing to the "Light Heavyweight" in Moorer. How about Tyson losing to Holyfield. The list is huge. But you get the drift.

            You're not going to deflect again are you and hope i don't see your strawmen arguments and constant fallacies you've been providing to a straight question? That would be embarrassing, wouldn't it. No, you go on and tell me how shlt they are for losing to them. Go on.

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            • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

              When did the point become whether AJ could beat Ali or Holmes or not? Try and twist the logic all you want, i'm an expert in weirdo's with these personality traits.

              Now, let's try that one again....

              By your logic, AJ is shlt due to losing to someone smaller than himself. I'm asking you what you feel about Ali and the likes of Holmes when they lost to even smaller opponents. How about Bowe losing to the "Cruiserweight" Holyfield. How about Holyfield losing to the "Light Heavyweight" in Moorer. How about Tyson losing to Holyfield. The list is huge. But you get the drift.

              You're not going to deflect again are you and hope i don't see your strawmen arguments and constant fallacies you've been providing to a straight question? That would be embarrassing, wouldn't it. No, you go on and tell me how shlt they are for losing to them. Go on.
              You literally said "AJ would dominate them" in regard to Ali and Holmes. You lose. So sorry fan boy.

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              • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

                Carl is clearly being biased due to AJ leaving Robert McCracken. He even name checks Robert.

                How can a shockingly biased opinion that is laughable be the truth? What?

                Ricky was a great fighter. Why, if you lose are you proven to be shlt or something? I guess you better look at pretty much every American in history and see if your "Logic" stands up. To any normal person, it clearly doesn't come close to doing so. But why change the habit of a lifetime.
                Froch knows the truth. He's not a delusional Union Jack-wearing pansy like you.

                Hatton was so overrated. He got a gift against Collazo and was put to sleep by Manny after Floyd clobbered him. It's amazing that druggie even won a title.

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                • Originally posted by Atypicalbrit View Post

                  No, Wilder is LITERALLY the favourite

                  https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/d...-joshua/winner

                  Not saying I don't think AJ can win but his current headpace is going to make it difficult.
                  Wow, is wilder really favourite? They must be swayed by people trolling josh, rather than take a deep breath and take a look at resumes.
                  No, I can't believe wilder is favourite until fight is made and they're in ring.
                  Last edited by hugh grant; 12-08-2023, 05:37 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by Stuntman Mike View Post

                    Fury has the same problem tbh he's only really fought Wilder and whyte since his win over wlad and had 10 fights since that fight too which is pretty bad

                    Even stiverne is better than anyone fury fought outside of those fighters I mentioned
                    100% true. Also Wlad retired after that fight (after Fury ran from the rematch). It was a good win for Fury but when you run from the rematch - shows a lack of confidence you can do it again. I remember also Fury spent the run up to the fight saying how old and over-the-hill Wlad was. Commenting on his grey hair etc...

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                    • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

                      AJ went for the finish against Ruiz when he dropped him and stood square-on when he did so. You don't do that against a shorter opponent with faster hands. Especially when you're that tall with that kind of reach. Wilder doesn't have the same dimensions and abilities as Ruiz. Therefore it makes no sense.

                      Did you miss the Wlad fight or something? With the way Fury had huge success with his low level power against Wilder's glass chin, you think he'd fair well with the power of Wlad the way AJ did? Haha. What? Then you take into consideration the fact that Ruiz hits harder than Fury. Sorry, but your reading of a fight and different styles is awful.
                      Not for nuthin', but regardless of the fights you've won, the tools you possess and your dominance of your entire era, weak though it may be; if you're the kind of guy who gets dumped by Corrie Sanders, Lamon Brewster (both Stiverne level guys) and....Ross "Wlad's Boss" Puritty.......You'd better not think about getting hit, even once; by Deontay Wilder.

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