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  • Originally posted by Patsfan bri View Post
    Wilder had his eardrum busted in the second fury fight and was furious his corner stopped the fight despite how one sided it was. Aj after getting dropped ( I think the 3rd time ) kinda just stayed in the corner and clearly didn’t want to continue while wilder who took a worse beating against fury wanted to continue. Forget who has a better resume, Aj losing to Ruiz’s is way more of an embarrassment than wilder, who gives up 50lbs and 2” in height to fury who is considered one of the best boxers in the world pound for pound.
    It doesn't matter how many times sane people put the fact out there that Wilder NEVER had his eardrum burst, the same insistence that he did, comes back. Again however, the doctor confirmed that it didn't.

    AJ didn't get dropped 3 times. He was dropped twice. The other two were pull downs but the ref counted them.

    Tell me specifically how AJ didn't want to continue in his corner? How many times must this also come up? AJ followed the refs instructions. At no point did he look like he didn't want to continue. But hey, people love to put their spiteful narratives out there through an agenda.

    Wilder has only lost to Fury because Fury is the only worthwhile fighter Wilder has fought. If you duck everyone and fight nothing but garbage, then how are you going to risk losing? Haha. Hell, he even needed the Showtime doctors to come to his aid to buy him some time to recover against Ortiz in the first fight. Outside of that, it's garbage all the way.

    Show me where Wilder was fighting and engaging in the second Fury fight? Maybe you can point it out to me? He clearly backtracks and disengages like a b1tch. I suppose you think he fought like hell in the second Ortiz fight where he was genuinely frightened to let anything go. Go and watch his pitiful excuse for a fight again and tell me he's a "Warrior". He's no such thing.

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    • Originally posted by wrecksracer View Post

      but AJ was beaten by Andy Ruiz. It's practically the most embarrassing loss by a heavyweight champion ever. Now that makes me laugh. That's your guy? lol. Give me fat James Toney vs AJ. Easily.
      What's wrong, have you got nothing but deflection of the point at hand? Why don't you want to tell me about Ali and Holmes amongst others with your "Logic"?

      AJ would dominate them in the same way i dominate logic and reality with the likes of you.

      Toney, the guy who was dominated by a journeyman and lost many times to scrubs? That guy? Haha. No, i'm the one laughing here. The only thing the twice proven drug cheat did at Heavy was beating a shot Holyfield. What else did he do? Win a fight by a point against Ruiz but got stripped due to failing a drug test? Even on the juice he only beat him by a point. Think about that. Actually, on second thoughts, don't bother thinking. I've seen what nonsense you come out with when you think.

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      • Originally posted by BlackRobb View Post
        Careful, Carl. Don't tell the truth. It'll offend certain UK Muppets for sure. They think AJ is the best thing since the electric nose hair trimmer. But they thought the same about Ricky Hatton also.
        Carl is clearly being biased due to AJ leaving Robert McCracken. He even name checks Robert.

        How can a shockingly biased opinion that is laughable be the truth? What?

        Ricky was a great fighter. Why, if you lose are you proven to be shlt or something? I guess you better look at pretty much every American in history and see if your "Logic" stands up. To any normal person, it clearly doesn't come close to doing so. But why change the habit of a lifetime.

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        • Originally posted by wrecksracer View Post

          Yeah? I'll take the James Toney who knocked out Evander Holyfield over Joshua.
          The drugged up James Toney? The one beating a shot Holyfield? Great. I'd take that in a heartbeat if it were possible. You'd face the usual defeat.

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          • Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
            Given the Fury fights and the Ruiz fight, i’d say it takes a heck of a lot more to KO Wilder than it takes for Joshua.

            Speaking of Wilder’s technique, wild punches, and just crude way of fighting…this actually would help him vs AJ. Wilder throws more punches and is more aggressive. AJ ain’t hitting Wilder without something coming back at him. If AJ ever gets into a firefight with Wilder, it will be a repeat of the first Ruiz fight. And I do think AJ will eventually get ****** into a firefight with Wilder.
            AJ went for the finish against Ruiz when he dropped him and stood square-on when he did so. You don't do that against a shorter opponent with faster hands. Especially when you're that tall with that kind of reach. Wilder doesn't have the same dimensions and abilities as Ruiz. Therefore it makes no sense.

            Did you miss the Wlad fight or something? With the way Fury had huge success with his low level power against Wilder's glass chin, you think he'd fair well with the power of Wlad the way AJ did? Haha. What? Then you take into consideration the fact that Ruiz hits harder than Fury. Sorry, but your reading of a fight and different styles is awful.

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            • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

              AJ went for the finish against Ruiz when he dropped him and stood square-on when he did so. You don't do that against a shorter opponent with faster hands. Especially when you're that tall with that kind of reach. Wilder doesn't have the same dimensions and abilities as Ruiz. Therefore it makes no sense.

              Did you miss the Wlad fight or something? With the way Fury had huge success with his low level power against Wilder's glass chin, you think he'd fair well with the power of Wlad the way AJ did? Haha. What? Then you take into consideration the fact that Ruiz hits harder than Fury. Sorry, but your reading of a fight and different styles is awful.
              Joshua has every attribute needed to beat Wilder but because of his confidence Wilder will be the favourite.

              I'd like to see AJ win btw, I think if he does it will really give him a lot of confidence back that's been missing for years and a confident AJ will be good for the division.

              I just think it's a hard task because his hesitancy will give Wilder openings and time to line up the right hand.

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              • Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post

                Well that's misdirection of the question, sir.
                Wilder has beaten NO "Great Champions" who were at or anywhere near their prime.
                Not genuinely great ones, at their best. Not even one.

                But then, neither has Joshua.
                Nor has Wladimir Klitschko
                Or Vitali Klitschko
                Or Lennox Lewis

                As with many greats, greatness is acheived by a sizable ledger of wins over very good, or "Near Great" fighters. Every name on this post have some of those.

                You could make a case for Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield, and Rid**** Bowe, largely leveraged againt each other (as career overlap timing will dictate), and certainly, you can make that case for Tyson Fury.

                For Wilder, we can say that he at least Drew with a Prime, Great champion.

                Can't say that much for Joshua. Defrocked, degraded, discharged, demoted, disemployed and diposed 39 year, 248 day old, oft KOd and fully retired Wlad?????
                Great heavyweight, but he was hardly prime.
                I won't bother with the rest of your nonsense, but i want to address the "Fury being a prime great champion" bit. Not only is Fury not great (Please point out how this is true without further making an idiot of yourself) but he wasn't close to being prime when he first fought Wilder. He was at the worst point of his career coming back from years out of the ring being a fat mess and having to lose all that weight. He was at best, 50% when he fought Wilder. Not only that, but it wasn't a draw. he beat Wilder. Wilder's team even told Fury he won. It's because, he did.

                Wlad was an often KO'd fighter when he fought AJ? But not Fury? AJ being the one to KO him but Fury couldn't come close to doing so?

                I know you're a troll. But ask yourself, what motivates you? Strange behaviour for an adult don't you think.

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                • Originally posted by Atypicalbrit View Post

                  Joshua has every attribute needed to beat Wilder but because of his confidence Wilder will be the favourite.

                  I'd like to see AJ win btw, I think if he does it will really give him a lot of confidence back that's been missing for years and a confident AJ will be good for the division.

                  I just think it's a hard task because his hesitancy will give Wilder openings and time to line up the right hand.
                  Ha ha, since when will wilder be favourite? When people say wilder ko s Josh in 1, 2 or 5 rounds or whatever round it is, it's only sarcasm usually? They don't really seem to mean it!
                  Last edited by hugh grant; 12-07-2023, 08:41 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by denium View Post

                    Forum warrior & AJ nuthugger Sid-Knee claiming that boxing HOFer & multi-millionaire Carl Froch is on the bottom wrung of the ladder

                    Froch is a million times more successful than you'll ever be lad. Enjoy the rest of your shift at Costa Coffee.
                    I wasn't talking about Carl when i mentioned the delusional ones being upset that their delusions will be smashed to bits. I'm talking about the crazies you see all over this site. I did however point out it was irrational from Carl and based on an agenda due to AJ leaving McCracken though. Which is true.

                    Costa Coffee? I'm a silent partner in two businesses. Haha.

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                    • Originally posted by wrecksracer View Post

                      Sure, they vacated the decision, but anybody with eyes saw James Toney win the heavyweight belt. Just accept your guy is a domestic level has been, who won his belt from the actual worst heavyweight champion, Charles Martin.
                      AJ only had one belt did he? Haha. And this with Wilder beating the bum that was Stiverne and only ever having one title his whole worthless career as he ran from every unification he was offered.

                      Do you not read your madness back and realise how emotionally involved you are here? How could a nobody do this to you? You paint AJ as only beating the likes of Martin because it suits your warped bitterness. We both know AJ beat vastly superior fighters than him. But due to your rage, you embarrassed yourself anyway by trying, and failing, to manipulate the situation. No one does that unless it's personal with a lot of emotions being at play. It's clearly a waste of time. But you don't think so.

                      Just face it. AJ is so good in your minds eye it makes you raging angry. You can't wait to slander and discredit him. Think about it.

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