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If Canelo Beats Beanvidez he's clearly the best 168 of all time

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  • #21
    Originally posted by sunny31 View Post

    Which fight....?

    Ward has the best resume at 168

    Kessler
    Froch
    Abraham
    Bika
    miranda
    Green
    Dawson

    Honorable mention to Froch and Calzaghe

    Roy was imo the best to box in that division
    168 Roy would destroy Canelo, some of these posters are delusional.

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    • #22
      Canelo has 55 fights from 135 to 160, and 9 fights at 168+.

      For him to be in that conversation of best resumes at 168, and people mentioning fighters who fought 100% of their fights at 168+, says a lot about him as a fighter across all weight classes he’s been in.

      Personally, I think his resume shines throughout all weight classes, not one weight class in particular.
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      • #23
        Originally posted by Regge View Post

        Hahaajaj hello Noo Wards best win at 168 was a robbery plain n simple.
        Yet another racist post from the king of that bu!!shyte. I know it doesn’t fit your racist agenda but how in the phuck was Ward beating Froch a robbery?

        Admit it, every regular poster here knows it, you are the alt of the banned poster Trey Shaw and you’ve been banned here many times for making racist posts. I strongly suspect that this isn’t the first time you’ve been banned and then created an alt. Am I correct?

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        • #24
          Originally posted by MikeyMike100 View Post
          I think he already probably is but if he beat Benavidez its not even debatable imo

          Rocky Fielding
          Callum Smith
          Avni Yildrim
          Billy Joe Saunders
          Caleb Plant
          GGG
          John Ryder
          David Benavidez

          Undefeated and no one would have a better resume at 168 than this
          You don't seem to realize that list is total garbage and the who's who of UK cans and C level fighters? His best win is Plant followed by Callum smith who should have lost to Journeyman Ryder. GGG was brought up as a showcase fight.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by MikeyMike100 View Post

            I dont know. I would favor Froch vs all of Canelos opponents at 168 but he struggled with Taylor, Abraham and Groves. Didnt even really dominate an old Glenn Johnson who was a fill in opponent. I dont think its as much of a guarantee as you do
            Would Alvarez beat all of the fighters who Froch has fought at 168 pounds? Does Alvarez beat Andre Ward? Mikkel Kessler?

            Carl Froch beat the last good version of Jermaine Taylor 'Jermaine Taylor is better fighter than 99.9% of the fighters on Alvarez's Super Middle Weight Resume, I honestly don't know who you would rate above him? Caleb Plant? Callum Smith? As of right now, they are not better fighters than Jermaine Taylor at his peak or in good form'.

            Froch in my opinion, performed very well vs Abraham at a time when Abraham was blasting everyone out 'A aura of intimidation was surrounding Abraham at the time Froch fought him'.

            Alvarez has beaten no fighter at 168 pounds as good as Mikkel Kessler.

            Note: Carl Froch has fought at a higher level then Alvarez at 168 pounds, and fought during a more competitive era within those divisions. And I think Froch beats every single middle to super middle weight fighter on Alvarez's resume to date 'Stylistically Froch would also beat certain fighters more impressively'.

            All the best fighters who Alvarez has fought have been Welter Weights, Floyd Mayweather Junior, Miguel Cotto, Shane Mosley 'The only real great Middle to Super Middle Weight fighter who he has fought in my opinion is Golovkin'.

            This is no disrespect to Alvarez 'A fighter can only fight and beat the fighters in their era. It is not Alvarez's fault that his era has been under par, that is one of the major reasons why I think he was able to yo yo up and down the weight classes in the first place' etc.




            Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 11-28-2023, 07:05 PM.
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            • #26
              No, not even close how long have some of you been watching if you think his reign is the best ever at 168?

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              • #27
                Originally posted by MikeyMike100 View Post

                Not if Canelo beats Benavidez
                So would Benny be the greatest if he beats Canelo ?
                Cause that narrative would have to go long , it’s a two way street or one way ?
                Calzaghe would beat both of them
                RJJ would obliterate them
                Just sayin’

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by meme_man View Post

                  168 Roy would destroy Canelo, some of these posters are delusional.
                  This isnt a head to head, this is a resume and accomplishments comparison

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Oracle01 View Post

                    You don't seem to realize that list is total garbage and the who's who of UK cans and C level fighters? His best win is Plant followed by Callum smith who should have lost to Journeyman Ryder. GGG was brought up as a showcase fight.
                    You dont seem to realize that almost Calzaghes whole career at 168 is UK cans and C level fighters. Calzaghes top 9 wins at 168 arent better than Canelos. If Canelo beats Benavidez it wont even be comparable

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post

                      Would Alvarez beat all of the fighters who Froch has fought at 168 pounds? Does Alvarez beat Andre Ward? Mikkel Kessler?

                      Carl Froch beat the last good version of Jermaine Taylor 'Jermaine Taylor is better fighter than 99.9% of the fighters on Alvarez's Super Middle Weight Resume, I honestly don't know who you would rate above him? Caleb Plant? Callum Smith? As of right now, they are not better fighters than Jermaine Taylor at his peak or in good form'.

                      Froch in my opinion, performed very well vs Abraham at a time when Abraham was blasting everyone out 'A aura of intimidation was surrounding Abraham at the time Froch fought him'.

                      Alvarez has beaten no fighter at 168 pounds as good as Mikkel Kessler.

                      Note: Carl Froch has fought at a higher level then Alvarez at 168 pounds, and fought during a more competitive era within those divisions. And I think Froch beats every single middle to super middle weight fighter on Alvarez's resume to date 'Stylistically Froch would also beat certain fighters more impressively'.

                      All the best fighters who Alvarez has fought have been Welter Weights, Floyd Mayweather Junior, Miguel Cotto, Shane Mosley 'The only real great Middle to Super Middle Weight fighter who he has fought in my opinion is Golovkin'.

                      This is no disrespect to Alvarez 'A fighter can only fight and beat the fighters in their era. It is not Alvarez's fault that his era has been under par, that is one of the major reasons why I think he was able to yo yo up and down the weight classes in the first place' etc.



                      If Canelo beats Benavidez would you say that his 168 resume is better than Froch ?

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