Is it fair to label Andrade a fraud?

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  • JakeTheBoxer
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    #61
    Originally posted by elfag

    A lot of olympians have ****** balls as pros. its two different styles of the sport, we can see that andrande was vastly, vastly overhyped. He was far worse than Plant who isnt rated that highly
    At least he fought a bigger and younger dangerous guy in higher weight class. Unlike fraud Davis, who would never do something like that.

    I respect Andrade much more than Davis.

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    • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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      #62
      Originally posted by TheIronMike
      A 2X division titlist is not a fraud
      He is if he’s being labelled some P4P elite talent who’s gonna school Canelo, GGG etc.

      Not saying he was a bad fighter but nowhere near as good as he or his fanbase claimed he was.

      He’s also never beaten a single champion, past, present or future. Two vacant titles against Vanes Martirosyan in a fight he got dropped and Walter Katundowka.

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      • b Murphington
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        #63
        I don’t think he was ever a “fraud.”

        He was just never an ATG top tier talent and I don’t think anyone ever thought he was. Largely unproven against the best of the best. He passed with flying colors against limited opposition.

        Berlanga is a fraud. At least Andrade held titles in 2 weight classes. The red flag with Andrade, is the titles he won were vacant titles and he never fought a former or current world champion before Benavitez.

        I think his career was severely mismanaged. He never had a signature win. Was largely a forgotten champion who no one really thought of. I know boxing fans who never heard of him before last night.

        I think he just never advanced past a certain level because of the way his career played out. He was essentially spoon fed his opponents for most of his career it seems.

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        • _Rexy_
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          #64
          Originally posted by TheIronMike
          A 2X division titlist is not a fraud
          He was a two division champ off two vacant belts against two opponents nobody had on their radar.

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          • Smash
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            #65
            Originally posted by b Murphington
            I don’t think he was ever a “fraud.”



            I think he just never advanced past a certain level because of the way his career played out. He was essentially spoon fed his opponents for most of his career it seems.
            yeah but he picked up the spoon instead of the knife

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            • elfag
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              #66
              Originally posted by TheIronMike
              A 2X division titlist is not a fraud

              really what uber drivers did he beat to get those belts?

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              • HandsofIron
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                #67
                Originally posted by _Rexy_

                First top five fighter he ever faced and he gets stopped after wining one round.

                guess he should have fought Janibek?
                Yeah, that would have been a good fight.

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                • Bad_Guy
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                  #68
                  He hid like a puss the majority of his career, called out GGG when he was older, and then got exposed the first time he stepped up. Yea, he's a fraud/bum!

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                  • famicommander
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                    #69
                    Of course he's a fraud.

                    Nobody makes it to 35 years old without fighting a guy that has won a legitimate world title by accident.

                    He avoided the big fights because he's a Euro level guy. Always has been, and that much was extremely obvious if you watched him fight Martirosyan, Sulecki, Williams, or Culcay.

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                    • Smash
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                      #70
                      andrades part time job should give a clue to the answer

                      andrade fraud.jpg

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