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  • MulaKO
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    #91
    Originally posted by Robi13

    Wrong I had Bivol beating canelo and I have canelo beating bivol if they ever rematch at 75, and for the record we talking canelo vs bud at 68. If that ever happens, I’ll take your money… lol easy money
    I’ll take Bivol and Bud
    Look me up when it happens I’d gladly prove to you what suckers bet is

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    • Robi13
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      #92
      Originally posted by MulaKO

      I’ll take Bivol and Bud
      Look me up when it happens I’d gladly prove to you what suckers bet is
      I’m not betting on the Bivol fight. I said the bud fight at 68. Sucker

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        #93
        Originally posted by Elheath
        You say that as if Bud, who's currently 36 years old and already a world class athlete who's been working out for decades and already has a lot of solid muscle, can easily just put on another 10 or 15 lbs of solid muscle AND also get adjusted to it to fight at a world level in a few month. This isn't the same as a random fat dude not getting off his sofa while munching on pizza and soda for half a years and gaining 15 lbs of fat, nor a college kid who decided to start working out so he can get popular with the girls in his school.
        I see ur point. When i said that though, i'm taking into account the amount of wear and tear on his body. Bud hasn't taken much punishment his whole career. He's fresh. Also, how Bud trains, his lifestyle, his work ethic, his discipline, his intelligence, his team, and the fact that he's a special fighter. He can put on the necessary pounds and he can do it the right way. Bud is 36, but he's 25 physically maybe younger. If anyone can do this to Canelo, it's Bud

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        • boxingitis
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          #94
          Originally posted by Apollo7

          Cotto, Trout and Mosely handled it



          Again, style's make fights. The fact that Canelo is a quite flat footed, 5'8" ex welterweight makes it interesting.
          Ok, Benavidez is pretty flat footed. Doesn't have the same power as Canelo and will be in front of Crawford. Why doesn't he call Benavidez out to prove he is worth a fight at 168.

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            #95
            Originally posted by archiemoore1

            I see ur point. When i said that though, i'm taking into account the amount of wear and tear on his body. Bud hasn't taken much punishment his whole career. He's fresh. Also, how Bud trains, his lifestyle, his work ethic, his discipline, his intelligence, his team, and the fact that he's a special fighter. He can put on the necessary pounds and he can do it the right way. Bud is 36, but he's 25 physically maybe younger. If anyone can do this to Canelo, it's Bud
            Is Crawford fresh for a boxer who's been in this business for as long he has? Yes.
            Is Crawford in great shape right now and also has a great work ethic etc? Yes.
            Is Crawford a "special" fighter? "Special" is a very vague term, but I'd say yes.
            Is Crawford physically 25 maybe younger? Now I think you are significantly underestimating the ability of a real world class 25 years old athlete...I can see the argument that he's got a body of a boxer who's still in his early 30, or that he is in better shape than a generic 25 years old dude, but not a below 25 world class athlete, which is what he's trying to be.

            Again, this isn't a young kid who decided to start working out for the first time in his life, and has a crap ton of leeway to grow and put on new muscle for every workout he conducts. This is a man who's started his career at 135, already put on pounds and pounds of solid, legit muscle over his career to go up to 140 then 147, and after spending all of his 30s so far at 147, finally considering going up to 154 to likely finish out his career. In other words, since age 20 when he made his professional debut, he's gone up 12 lbs in 10 years when he reached 147. Going up to 168 bypassing 154 and 160 means that he is going to gain 21 lbs in his thirties, almost double what he gained when he was in his physical prime, the 20s. He's also closer to 40 than he is 30, and while he may not have accumulated damage/wear and tear as much but it doesn't change the fact that human bodies, no matter how in shape they are right now, certainly is on the downhill by the time you are on the other side of 35. You can be in better shape than others younger than you by comparison, but it is definitely on the downhill and past your personal prime. And the guy he's going to be fighting is not some second tier chump who lucked out on getting a belt at 168 and looking for a cash grab, but the actual best guy in the division and still a legit top P4P dude, like him or not.

            I understand he wants the pay day, because money does matter a lot in life. But given legacy, I really think he's got a significantly better shot and realistic chance of cleaning out 154 to be a three division undisputed champ and retire into the sunset than jump up to 168 for a near guaranteed loss and retirement fund for his next three generations.

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              #96
              Originally posted by boxingitis

              Ok, Benavidez is pretty flat footed. Doesn't have the same power as Canelo and will be in front of Crawford. Why doesn't he call Benavidez out to prove he is worth a fight at 168.
              Benavidez isn't a 5'8" former WW. Benavidez could beat Canelo for all we know and Crawford doesn't need to prove he's worth a fight. Khan didn't.

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                #97
                Originally posted by Apollo7

                Benavidez isn't a 5'8" former WW. Benavidez could beat Canelo for all we know and Crawford doesn't need to prove he's worth a fight. Khan didn't.
                Last time Canelo was a 5'8" WW was 13 years ago back when he was 20 years old. That reasoning is like saying that because Crawford is a 5'8" former lightweight (9 years ago), Shakur Stevenson who is also 5'8" light weight right now can compete at 147 against Crawford for his next match and have a good chance of winning.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Apollo7
                  I actually wouldn't be surprised if Crawford could beat Canelo and hurt him in the process. Possibly even stop him.
                  Not a chance.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Robi13
                    I’m not betting on the Bivol fight. I said the bud fight at 68. Sucker
                    Easy money biatch
                    Hit me up
                    I know you have to much invested in ginger to see him lose

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by 11Combos

                      SMH.... the delusion of black people who still think hey are "stronger, better & more athletic" than everybody else, yet they are not the face of Boxing, not even in the Heavyweight Division
                      Guess you haven't seen the video of Crawford deadlifting 455 lbs? That's mental considering he walks around at what? 165? Guarantee you Deontay Wilder can't do that, nevermind Canelo. Watch a few videos of him wrestling, like the one where he body slams and pins a member of Team Kazakhstan (while wearing jeans and flip flops) or read about what wrestling coaches and UFC guys say about his wrestling skills. Maybe you've been living under a rock. This has nothing to do with "the delusion of black people." I'm not black by the way, and Terrence Crawford is a very special athlete. Go back and read my comment again, since reading doesn't seem to be your strong suit. I didn't say he would definitely beat Canelo in a boxing ring. It's my opinion that he's stronger and he's a better athlete. Football, basketball, wrestling, triathlon, weight room, etc I think Crawford would walk all over Canelo and plenty of other bigger guys. Not sure how that might translate into the ring but it certainly won't hurt. Crawford is also a better boxer. His only disadvantage would be size. Will it be enough? Who knows. Again that wasn't my point.
                      Last edited by sidefx996; 11-14-2023, 07:38 PM.

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