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  • crimsonfalcon07
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    #131
    Originally posted by Leicesterage

    Haney defended against mandatory opposition. Crawford did not.

    This really isn’t hard.

    I said multiple times that he should have agreed to fight Boots while waiting for Spence to make up his mind. Boots was the mandatory.
    This is ****** on all counts.

    Boots was IBF mandatory. Bud was the WBO champ, and defended it 6 times before the Spence fight. Spence was IBF champ since May 27, 2017. If Ennis wanted Bud, he should have pursued a ranking with the WBO. Ennis didn't get the IBF interim until the Karen fight in January of this year in any case. Before that, Vergil Ortiz Jr was the #1 ranked with WBO as of Dec 2022.

    If anyone should have fought Ennis as mandatory before the fight, it was Spence, not Bud.

    So this take is wrong on every count.

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      #132
      Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07
      Boots was IBF mandatory. Bud was the WBO champ, and defended it 6 times before the Spence fight.
      6 times - and out of that six, only two were highly ranked: Porter and Kavaliauskas, then one mando (Avanesyan).

      Meanwhile, Spence in the same span of time:

      - beat FIVE TOP 5 WELTERWEIGHTS
      - beat a mandatory
      - unified with WBC (Porter)
      - unified with WBA (Ugas)

      The fact of the matter is, Crawford took the easier road to undisputed by waiting for Spence to do all of the work. I have nothing but respeck for him pulling that off.

      BUT...

      Once you're at that top, you play by the org rules or whatever happens, happens.

      Remember, even Manny got stripped for refusing to fight his mandatory (Ugas).

      This isn't about Crawford, this has happened to plenty of other fighters. It's just worse with Crawford because he came out talking about fighting lightweights and super middleweights. Just like Manny was talking about fighting lightweight Cryan. If it's good for the goose...you know.

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        #133
        Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07

        This is ****** on all counts.

        Boots was IBF mandatory. Bud was the WBO champ, and defended it 6 times before the Spence fight. Spence was IBF champ since May 27, 2017. If Ennis wanted Bud, he should have pursued a ranking with the WBO. Ennis didn't get the IBF interim until the Karen fight in January of this year in any case. Before that, Vergil Ortiz Jr was the #1 ranked with WBO as of Dec 2022.

        If anyone should have fought Ennis as mandatory before the fight, it was Spence, not Bud.

        So this take is wrong on every count.
        Lmao. It seems certain folks still having a hard time dealing with the fact Bud straight outclassed ESJ. Nothing more nothing less. Now holding on a ****** ass narrative of TC ducking friking boots Ennis. Just dumb.

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        • crimsonfalcon07
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          #134
          Originally posted by Leicesterage

          Blah blah blah I'm a hater blah
          You said that Bud didn't fight mandatories. That's manifestly untrue. He defended his title.

          You claimed that Ennis was Crawford's mandatory. That's also false. He was Spence's mandatory, not Bud's.

          As for the rest of it, who cares if he got stripped? He's still THE man at 147, and no emailed titles are going to change that. It's fine to keep the division and careers going, but Bud has earned getting to pick the fights that are the best for him, and Ennis just isn't that yet, in comparison to fights he could get above 147. He can build his own legacy, and if he actually wanted to fight Crawford, he could have gone the WBO route instead of the IBF.

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            #135
            Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07

            You said that Bud didn't fight mandatories..
            I didn’t say that, he did.

            I said that he ducked his IBF mandatory. Which IBF validated by their action. So

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              #136
              Again, Crawford has nobody to blame but himself. he made it pretty much clear he had no intention of fighting Ennis.

              IBF just did their job.

              Crawford wants to fight Canelo or Charlo anyway. Or he changed his mind?

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                #137
                Originally posted by Leicesterage

                Shakur turned it down. It was all over social media claiming a duck.
                Turn the garbabe offer down. I don't balme him, wise man.

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                • crimsonfalcon07
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                  #138
                  Originally posted by Leicesterage

                  I didn’t say that, he did.
                  Originally posted by Leicesterage
                  Haney defended against mandatory opposition. Crawford did not.
                  Keep lying... You absolutely said he didn't defend against mandatory opposition, and he did. You seem to have a problem being honest when it comes to Crawford.

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                    #139
                    Why would anybody want to see Crawford fight Ennis? Crawford destroys Ennis like he would destroy everyone else at WW. Take Ennis **** out of your asses

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                      #140
                      Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07



                      Keep lying... You absolutely said he didn't defend against mandatory opposition, and he did. You seem to have a problem being honest when it comes to Crawford.
                      Name the mandatory that Crawford faced after fighting Spence, since you want to selectively quote - because I said he ducked his IBF mandatory. Not "mandator(ies)".



                      Originally posted by Leicesterage

                      I said that he ducked his IBF mandatory. Which IBF validated by their action. So

                      Crawford is the one saying he doesn't duck mandatorIES (as in, one or more of them). Yet he ducked ONE of them. The IBF. That's fact, whether you like it or not.

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