Comments Thread For: Terence Crawford Stripped Of IBF Belt; Jaron Ennis Elevated To Full Titlist

[paulf]

Guys hoard belts, never fight mandatories, never get stripped - fans complain.

Guys get stripped for not meeting their obligations as champion - fans complain.

Ya'll are the worst.

[crimsonfalcon07]

Name the mandatory that Crawford faced after fighting Spence, since you want to selectively quote - because I said he ducked his IBF mandatory. Not "mandator(ies)".






Crawford is the one saying he doesn't duck mandatorIES (as in, one or more of them). Yet he ducked ONE of them. The IBF. That's fact, whether you like it or not.

He isn't contractually permitted to defend against anyone except Spence because Spence activated the rematch clause. He likely wouldn't have taken the fight with Bud without it.

I think immediate rematch clauses are ******, and that it doesn't really matter regardless. Crawford is still the man anywhere around 147. IBF rules are very clear and I personally don't have an in issue with him being stripped, because it doesn't matter, unless he decides he wants to stay at 147. Right now his whole career is in limbo thanks to Spence and the rematch clause.

But you said he didn't defend against mandatory opposition and he has before. You didn't say you were talking about this one time, and even if that were true, you and everyone in the boxing world knew that he couldn't, and that's thanks to Spence. It's barely been 3 months since he inherited the obligation from Spence, while Ennis was mandatory for Spence for 7 months. Yet you're not complaining about Spence... Why could that be? You've been fundamentally dishonest this entire time. Just say you hate Crawford and be done with it.

You said previously that he should have defended against Ennis before the Spence fight, and acted like Ennis has been Bud's mandatory for ages. That was also untrue. Ennis was only mandatory for anyone since January, and for Bud only for 3 months. If anyone should have fought Ennis, it was Spence.

[Combat Talk Radio]

He isn't contractually permitted to defend against anyone except Spence because Spence activated the rematch clause. He likely wouldn't have taken the fight with Bud without it.

I think immediate rematch clauses are ******, and that it doesn't really matter regardless. Crawford is still the man anywhere around 147. IBF rules are very clear and I personally don't have an in issue with him being stripped, because it doesn't matter, unless he decides he wants to stay at 147. Right now his whole career is in limbo thanks to Spence and the rematch clause.

But you said he didn't defend against mandatory opposition and he has before. You didn't say you were talking about this one time, and even if that were true, you and everyone in the boxing world knew that he couldn't, and that's thanks to Spence. It's barely been 3 months since he inherited the obligation from Spence, while Ennis was mandatory for Spence for 7 months. Yet you're not complaining about Spence... Why could that be? You've been fundamentally dishonest this entire time. Just say you hate Crawford and be done with it.

You said previously that he should have defended against Ennis before the Spence fight, and acted like Ennis has been Bud's mandatory for ages. That was also untrue. Ennis was only mandatory for anyone since January, and for Bud only for 3 months. If anyone should have fought Ennis, it was Spence.

More cherry picking.

I said multiple times it's Spence's fault that Boots didn't get his shot BUT Crawford inherited it. I also said that Crawford needed to vacate if he wasn't going to fight his mandatory. And I said, IBF would have been fine if Crawford at least signed the agreement to fight Boots after fighting Spence; they flex, they want the contract signed. Crawford refused it - that's a duck. Crawford called out lightweights and middleweights, that's a duck. And trying to fight Spence at 147 knowing it's a disadvantage for Spence is a duck of him AND Boots.

And I said, IBF was right to strip him. You just don't like it, but they did the right thing here, period. Crawford needed to vacate.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Guys hoard belts, never fight mandatories, never get stripped - fans complain.

Guys get stripped for not meeting their obligations as champion - fans complain.

Ya'll are the worst.

The ones who are complaining about Crawford getting stripped aren't fans, they're marks.

When Canelo got stripped, they cheered.

When Golovkin got stripped, they cried foul.

When Jermell got stripped, they cheered.

When Crawford gets stripped, they cry foul.


So basically, they love it when it's a star and hate it when it's someone who cherry picks opposition.

[Teetotaler69]

Guys hoard belts, never fight mandatories, never get stripped - fans complain.

Guys get stripped for not meeting their obligations as champion - fans complain.

Ya'll are the worst.

Lmao this is why I love when you post

Crawford just won the title and they didn't even give him time to negotiate or anything.

Booty ennis was Spencer's mandatory for the longest and somehow that's crawfords fault?

Lol dumbass

[crimsonfalcon07]

And I said, IBF was right to strip him. You just don't like it, but they did the right thing here, period. Crawford needed to vacate.

I agree that IBF was right to strip him. I don't really think it matters. Bud is still the undisputed champ, titles or not. Ennis can and should build his own era if he's really the goods that we think he is.

In my view, it only counts as a duck if you can actually take the fight. Callouts mean nothing. I could call out Tyson Fury. So what? I dislike rematch clauses. They smack of lack of confidence. Who's going to be the better man on the night? But everyone knew, even before the fight, that Bud was going to be tied to a rematch.

My beef here is that you're calling out Bud when he literally can't fight anyone but Spence.

But Spence hasn't defended against an IBF mandatory since 2018. Get that through your head. 5. Years.

Yet you're in here calling out Bud for not fighting a guy he's legally unable to fight, and making threads of your own calling him out for it, and haven't called out Spence even one time in any of them. It's BS, and you're a hater.

Think about why he had an outstanding IBF mandatory. Who didn't fight an IBF mandatory for 5 years? Then think about who activated a rematch clause preventing Bud from taking other fights anyways? This is all on Spence.

I'll call out Bud if he decides to stay at 147 and not fight anyone. But he's earned the right to move up and fight money fights on his way out.

[Combat Talk Radio]

I agree that IBF was right to strip him. I don't really think it matters. Bud is still the undisputed champ, titles or not. Ennis can and should build his own era if he's really the goods that we think he is.

In my view, it only counts as a duck if you can actually take the fight. Callouts mean nothing. I could call out Tyson Fury. So what? I dislike rematch clauses. They smack of lack of confidence. Who's going to be the better man on the night? But everyone knew, even before the fight, that Bud was going to be tied to a rematch.

My beef here is that you're calling out Bud when he literally can't fight anyone but Spence.

But Spence hasn't defended against an IBF mandatory since 2018. Get that through your head. 5. Years.

Yet you're in here calling out Bud for not fighting a guy he's legally unable to fight, and making threads of your own calling him out for it, and haven't called out Spence even one time in any of them. It's BS, and you're a hater.

Think about why he had an outstanding IBF mandatory. Who didn't fight an IBF mandatory for 5 years? Then think about who activated a rematch clause preventing Bud from taking other fights anyways? This is all on Spence.

I'll call out Bud if he decides to stay at 147 and not fight anyone. But he's earned the right to move up and fight money fights on his way out.

Crawford is on video pretending he "never heard Boots' name" before.

Crawford is on video saying he REFUSES to fight Boots. Long before Spence activated the rematch clause.

And for the last time: The IBF wants to see that you SIGN TO FIGHT. You don't have to fight them next, you have to sign to fight and negotiate the condition around the rematch. Tons of fighters through the years have done it.

You ignoring that Crawford straight refused to fight Boots is sad. It's sad.

[crimsonfalcon07]

More blah from the hater.

Why do you care so much? Why are you so intent on it, and, yet again, why are you pretending that this isn't on Spence? What's sad is you hating on a guy. What have you accomplished? Is that why you're trying to spread your negative BS?

It's possible to respect the accomplishments of multiple fighters and enjoy what they've accomplished without all the whining.

Why SHOULD Bud fight Ennis? The casuals have no idea who he is, and even for those who follow the sport, his resume is VERY light. How many ranked opponents does he have? I personally would rather see Bud fight at 154. This is like claiming that Loma ducked Haney. Dude was a contender, and Loma fought the last remaining champion at his weight class. Fighting a better opponent isn't ducking. Fighting Spence again at any weight, or Jermell at 154, or Tszyu, or Canelo, are all better fights. Tank v Crawford would be a perfectly good money fight and would either shut up Floyd and Tank or fully cement Tank as a P4P star, although I don't have much interest in it as a legacy fight.

Boots didn't even want to fight Crawford to begin. That's why he went the IBF route to begin, rather than the WBO, and he's only a mandatory because Spence didn't fight him. You need to answer those questions because the issue lies with the guy who didn't defend for 5 years, rather than the guy who inherited an irrelevant defense.

[PunchyPotorff]

It was the right thing to do! Spence was dragging his feet! Crawford has already said that be had no intention of fighting Boots! So I'm glad they didn't allow the division to be held up, for two fighters, who probably won't even be fighting @ 147 again! Boots' career is in limbo! He had a contract with SHO, and now they're out of business! Wherever PBC lands, he's not a part of it, because he's not signed with PBC. Where is Cameron Dunkin taking Boots?

You stated your opinion, I stated mine. The End.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Why SHOULD Bud fight Ennis? Fighting Spence again at any weight, or Jermell at 154, or Tszyu, or Canelo, are all better fights. Tank v Crawford would be a perfectly good money fight and would either shut up Floyd and Tank or fully cement Tank as a P4P star, although I don't have much interest in it as a legacy fight.

Boots didn't even want to fight Crawford to begin. That's why he went the IBF route to begin, rather than the WBO, and he's only a mandatory because Spence didn't fight him. You need to answer those questions because the issue lies with the guy who didn't defend for 5 years, rather than the guy who inherited an irrelevant defense.

Translated:

"I celebrated when Jermell got stripped but not here because I'm a Crawford fan."

Dude...just say that. That's what it is. And that's fine.

Bottom line: IBF did their job because Crawford ducked the man. Crawford simply had to vacate to avoid this. But of course, if he'd vacated, it'd also be a duck. At least though, it wouldn't have ended up like this:

If u get handed a world title because someone blatantly avoided u, u deserve it, because even though u didn't fight for it, u kicked the champs ass mentally

And then this nonsense:

Fighting a better opponent isn't ducking.

Yet NSB accused Floyd of ducking when he chose to fight Baldomir who was the champion at the time and being overhyped by the media instead of the latest 'eye test' in Margacheato. NSB then accused Floyd of ducking Paul Williams (despite Williams himself saying it wasn't ducking because he wasn't ready yet) after Williams beat Margacheato, when Floyd decided to fight the guy who arguably made him a star in De La Hoya.

The only "better" opponent for Crawford would be a Spence rematch - BUT, NSB trashes that. Fine: fight a mandatory. Crawford refused. Okay, then vacate. Crawford refused. okay, then get stripped.

The process was followed. You guys just don't like it.