Why does everyone act like AJ has a glass jaw but Fury doesn't?

[_Rexy_]

AJ gets hurt and stays hurt.

Fury gets up and recovers well and goes on to win fights.

That's how you judge who can take a shot well. Many fighters can be dropped, doesn't mean you have a bad chin, sometimes a shot lands and the direction or force of the shot means the only place your balance can take you is towards the floor. It's can be just as much to do with the body mechanics as being hurt. If they were hurt, it would be very noticeable as they got up.

The likes of Fury and Juan Manuel Marquez could get dropped on multiple occasions, but you never saw them on ***** street for minutes or a few rounds like many fighters are, including AJ multiple times, and one where he got stopped.

Even Froch who is known for his chin was dropped by Groves and Taylor, but he recovered well. It's simply the nature of some shots and the body mechanics may mean you go down.

It doesn't really mean anything unless you get up and you are still in trouble.

Oh, already mentioned even the same example

[4truth]

Neither has a glass chin but one has glass confidence and glass stamina

[ELPacman]

I think AJ and Fury's jaw are comparable. The difference is Fury has more heart and isn't as mental midget as AJ. When the going gets rough, AJ seems to clam up a bit. He actually dug in deep in his last fight, but I mean, it wasn't supposed to be that rough of a fight really...

[deathofaclown]

Oh, already mentioned even the same example

Haha yeah, they're always the two fighters I group together in my mind in respects to this kind of thing.

not only do they have ridiculous recovery time, they usually seem to step it up in the fight when they've gone down.

Wilder 3 and the Katsidis fights come to mind when I think of them doing down and getting up to take control and win. Many fighters wouldn't have got through those moments.

I can think about eight times JMM was on the floor off the top of my head and never he got stopped in his career

[baroidi]

Fury gets easily knocked down, but he has his full senses and his recovery is amazing. His first fight against Wilder he was knocked down, got up and went on the offensive instead of survival mode. Any clean shot that lands on Joshua he does the stanky legs and his senses are gone. When Ruiz knocked Joshua down for the first time, Joshua never recovered, even the commentators noticed Joshua didn't throw any punches for several rounds.

[M312]

It's a great point.

AJ is more defensive now, so people link that to fear of being hit. Could definitely be.

Fury recovers amazingly, so people think he's got a better chin. BUT he falls in square on his shots, his balance is actually very poor at times which is why he's not too difficult to knock down.

Also worth noting, he's never really faced a finisher. Strange to say about Wilder, but he's more a one shot merchant. There's no follow up to that huge shot. Ngannou too. No idea or commitment to trying to finish it.

In essense, it wouldn't be surprising for either of these two to be knocked out... but I think I'd be less surprised if Fury was knocked out, purely on technique and style. AJ is much more defensive these days.

[TheOneAboveAll]

Fury is like chewing gum. You can drop him, but nobody hurt him so far.

Hmm, that sounds like a Hans Themistode analogy.

[Toffee]

Fury was absolutely on ***** street against Wilder (3). That's why he fell down the second time - but Wilder couldn't land a decent shot to make it count. Fury does seem to recover well though.

I'm not one who doubts Joshua's heart. I've seen him properly wobbled and come through to win fights. But his physical reaction to being wobbled has always been an issue and he takes time to recover, during which he goes onto stiff legs. Whyte damaged him and he needed to recover. Wlad the same. Ruiz was coming in that sense.

[Marchegiano]

Because he gets up. Fury does seem to be able to get away with some things others have not though. I mean to say, I see your point and I think there's more to it.

Joshua wasn't given the same opportunity as Fury. I think both outcomes are fair but it's also fair to acknowledge Fury was allowed to continue from a far more devastating KD, got up slower-later in the count, and got a long count. We don't know that Joshua wouldn't have won had the ref let him go. But that's not even the only time Fury could have lost a fight or the only thing he does everyone seems to acknowledge and also not care about.

Cheating is one, everyone knows Fury cheats and the only real debate is the degree in which he cheats, but it seems like no one's all the interested in holding him accountable. Which is weird because as far as I know I am the only poster who advocates for good cheaters in boxing. I'm used to defending the art of cheating, with like B-Hop, Ward, Bradley's forehead, Margarito, I'm used to defending their cheating ways often but I don't hardly get to defend Fury for cheating because even his haters just kind of let it slide. Fools that hate on Marg do not let the gloves slide. Dudes that hate on Ward do not let the **** punches slide, you get me? Dudes who hate of Fury mention the cheating here and there and let it go really quickly. ... You can't tell me that elbow was not cool.

His recovery. The thing is, I don't think any other post K2 champion HW has been given as many opportunities to recover. It seems like basically anyone can get something on Tyson that could have ended the fight but didn't. Wallin's cut, Wilder's long count, the handful of fights he's been down in look like some other former champions' knock out losses. I'm not saying Fury should have lost any of those fights and before anyone claims it, yes I am a wilder fan, no I never gave Fury or the ref **** for the count. I just think it's a curious thing about the guy that people brush off too easily. Yes he can recover, but why is he always given the chance? No one is always given the chance, ya know? Floyd and Marciano I guess but together Floyd and Marciano saw the mat what 3 times? Fury's always given the chance and he seems to always need it.

His lies make a good third. Dude basically lives on lying for some reason. It's weird, but it's also weird the public's reaction to it is "Fury lies, get over it". Dudes will fill threads with contradictory statements from Wilder or Joshua like as if either of those fools have the cognitive capacity to remember all their bull****, but Fury, his bull**** is fine. I don't mean **** like his banter, I mean dude will promote a thing knowing damn well he's going to delay or cancel it and such bull****.

[hhh1200]

Because there was a lie circulating Fury was better than Ali.