Do you believe Deontay Wilder made $20 million in the Helenius fight?

[brettWall]

Except Espinoza didn't go along with such payrise. And Showtime was PBC's main source of income.
Showtime Espinoza was an original member of Wilder's team when Deontay was waxing poetic about loyalty.
Obviously, Stephen had had enough of overpaying Wilder. He realized they were trying hard to match DAZN's offer
when the streaming platform's business model wasn't even based on PPV, but on mass subscription.
Showtime exec decided to bolt and pass Wilder fights on to Fox Sports with unknown budgetary situation.

I saw that video of Wilder's loyalty crap. He was in a "Dream Team" he said; the team which Floyd made so much money. Yeah, he mentioned Mayweather. Little did he know good ol' Stephen Spinoza was getting worried where all these over-payments would come from.

[M312]

Except Espinoza didn't go along with such payrise. And Showtime was PBC's main source of income.
Showtime Espinoza was an original member of Wilder's team when Deontay was waxing poetic about loyalty.
Obviously, Stephen had had enough of overpaying Wilder. He realized they were trying hard to match DAZN's offer
when the streaming platform's business model wasn't even based on PPV, but on mass subscription.
Showtime exec decided to bolt and pass Wilder fights on to Fox Sports with unknown budgetary situation.

Doesn't matter where the money came from. It was part of his deal. Looks like its done now though, Helenius as the last fight on it... and they aren't looking to take him back. Or least can't afford to anymore.

[brettWall]

The baseline purses for fairly big fights like Thurman vs Porter, for example, is still $900K to $1.5 million EVEN TO THIS DAY. It may even have decreased because as you can see broadcasters have all scrambled to get out of boxing. They're obviously not gaining anything from it, monetary or any type of benefit.

$20 million purse for an average fight, not even considered big, is just too damn hard to stomach. IT IS A HUGE LIE.

These exaggerations started when DAZN/Hearn started offering astronomic sums of money. Finkel and company and many fans thought boxing is truly back in the mainstream, especially the heavyweights.

They ignored the fact that DAZN was a startup company in boxing in which their business model is not based on PPV sales, but on subscription. That's what people ignored. DAZN went aggressive in its offers. IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH BOXING BEING BACK IN THE MAINSTREAM.

So now almost everyone is exaggerating figures based on Hearn's crazy offers in the past. Those days are gone.

This sport needs to go back to its normal purses where it was before in terms of reporting, especially in the US.

DAZN itself is no longer offering large sums of money for every fight. Purses are always based on the size of the fight. If fighters and promoters on both sides can't come to a resolution, they'll do it on PPV like the Prograis vs Haney, for example. And believe me, Hearn or DAZN could care less about the PPV outcome. The only thing that mattered, especially for Eddie Boy Hearn, was the fight got made. And the advantage is everyone takes part in promoting the PPV from fighters, managers, everybody. In other words, the success would also be based on how the fight got promoted. Everyone is accountable for its success.

[Hustle]

I doubt it

[rickJen]

This sport needs to go back to its normal purses where it was before in terms of reporting, especially in the US.

DAZN itself is no longer offering large sums of money for every fight. Purses are always based on the size of the fight. If fighters and promoters on both sides can't come to a resolution, they'll do it on PPV like the Prograis vs Haney, for example. And believe me, Hearn or DAZN could care less about the PPV outcome. The only thing that mattered, especially for Eddie Boy Hearn, was the fight got made. And the advantage is everyone takes part in promoting the PPV from fighters, managers, everybody. In other words, the success would also be based on how the fight got promoted. Everyone is accountable for its success.

Showtime's Stephen Espinoza had already touched on the PPV issue.
He stated PPV is a tool to make fights happen. I'm sure he couldn't have cared about the PPV sales outcome.
The fight got made. That's all that really matter to network executives. HBO hated PPVs.
They would rather do it on regular subscription. But fighters and promoters are too greedy.
Therefore, to make fights happen, give them their guarantees based on subscription,
and they take the extra money off PPV sales. No sales, no extra money.

[Ry92]

He got paid 20-25m for fury each fury fight is helonius a champ with a belt on the line f... No i don't see any clear figures my guess is wilder received 6m & helonius 1.5m wilder is set to receive 25-30m for Ngannou so get real on 20m for a gatekeeper with no name or risk

[Teetotaler69]

Showtime's Stephen Espinoza had already touched on the PPV issue.
He stated PPV is a tool to make fights happen. I'm sure he couldn't have cared about the PPV sales outcome.
The fight got made. That's all that really matter to network executives. HBO hated PPVs.
They would rather do it on regular subscription. But fighters and promoters are too greedy.
Therefore, to make fights happen, give them their guarantees based on subscription,
and they take the extra money off PPV sales. No sales, no extra money.

This is by far the dumbest shlt I ever read.

Just fvkcing ******

[ELPacman]

Even $3 million is hard to believe, let alone $20 mil. The sport is not in the business of losing money. If it's an investment why are they letting him go inactive? He should be fighting 3 times a year to get their investment back. Ruiz vs Wilder would have been a fight to make investors' mouth water. Not every fan is a huge fan of this division. I for one don't GAF about it.

Yeah, how much he made for the fight itself, I have no clue, nor do I really care. Though if he made good money, good on him. I don't see how anyone could say he doesn't deserve it. He has given boxing fans excitement and has a wild enough personality to back him up. Love or hate the costumes, they were different and added to the drama of his bouts. I personally, don't care if he was paid 3mill or 20mill, I just want to see him back.