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Do you believe Deontay Wilder made $20 million in the Helenius fight?

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  • Do you believe Deontay Wilder made $20 million in the Helenius fight?

    It's a simple yes or no question.

    Despite US main broadcasters leaving boxing forever we still get these hyuuuge figures as if money grows on trees.

    Wilder vs Helenius Purse: Payout and Salaries - SportPaedia
    https://www.sportskeeda.com/pro-boxi...helenius-purse
    Last edited by maguirre; 10-31-2023, 02:38 PM.
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  • #2
    No idea. But if he did, they lost money on that fight.

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    • #3
      Mayweather had stated he...

      "wants to get boxing back in check and squash what he believes is a growing trend of fighters demanding more money than a fight is worth."
      https://www.boxingscene.com/mayweath...-money--109585

      "Demanding more money than the fight is worth."

      Wilder made his highest purse of $2 mil when he fought Luis Ortiz." He was making $1 mil per fight after gaining a title. That's what he's worth on that particular Ortiz fight.

      What changed? Does it mean the size of Helenius fight was worth 10x more?
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      • #4
        If he made $2 mil in the Ortiz fight, which all these news outlets cites and don't deny
        (strangely enough), then there's no way any broadcaster would be ****** enough to pay him that much.
        Especially when Fox Sports boxing was on its way out.

        The size of a fight can be estimated by comparing it with past fights.
        It's the only way. All these gargantuan figures are obviously mind-blowingly exaggerated.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by rick.gen View Post
          The size of a fight can be estimated by comparing it with past fights.
          It's the only way. All these gargantuan figures are obviously mind-blowingly exaggerated.
          Exactly. So was the Helenius fight ten times bigger than the Luis Ortiz fight I?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by maguirre View Post
            Exactly. So was the Helenius fight ten times bigger than the Luis Ortiz fight I?
            Short answer is NO. There is no long answer.

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            • #7
              Jesus Christ bro, you want a crash course in market penetration and ****? How to evaluate a personality's time value?


              It's one thing to not know how to figure out why someone is worth the amount they're paid but what you guys are throwing out is damn near ****** levels of ******.

              Are you sure? Are you sure a company like Fox looks exclusively at the previous draw for the fight? That's all they do, do they? Bunch of rich dudes need to get together to discuss the draw money anyone can look up and then when they do that they exclusively discuss the draw money from selective fights rather than full career trend or even their last ****ing match? You really believe suits was sitting in a room discussing how much to pay Wilder for Helenius only ****ing talked about the draw from Ortiz do ya? ****ing ****** bro, no you do not. It's a ****** point to make, period.


              Why ain't none of you talking how much a maf gets paid to tweet?

              Why ain't y'all talking about how much a maf gets paid to be on a ****ty show like real house wives or wild'n'out?

              Why ain't y'all talking about how much a maf gets for showing up to an event?

              Why ain't y'all talking about how much a maf bags on the backend?

              Don't know? Not important?

              Let's say they overpay him for his fight so he can promote the purse and underpay him for his appearances in the ****ty shows our old ladies watch? Network does Wilder a solid, Wilder does the network a solid, everyone makes profit.

              True? Not true? Who the **** knows because we're too ****ing ****** to think beyond "But him got dis for Ortiz doe"


              That "To this day" bump in popularity, that ain't make itself known in dude's wallet at all because all that matters is how much he was paid for Ortiz.

              Fighting Fury did nothing because we're too ******ed to acknowledge the man being more popular than he used to be.









              I got paid 10k for less than 5 minutes screen time on Showtime ... I had been paid **** all nothing for any television prior. Why TF did they give me 10K? Bunch of *******s in suits talking about but he used to do it for free? Or maybe projecting how much their ****ty show will make and paying me off because they're definitely making their money?

              Why don't you try buying a Wilder fight. Own the rights. Any of them. Buy that ****, then tell me a mother ****er ain't worth a mint.

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              • #8
                It's a corrupt sport where no one takes accountability for anything unlike normal establishments where they're obligated to publish independently-audited bottom line figures. In boxing, they treat everyone like idiots and no one sees forest from trees. Those figures should never be taken seriously.

                Assuming everything stays the same, $20 million is a huge jump from $2 million. Helenius fight, which was pegged as a comeback fight, would have to be the size of Canelo vs Cotto.​
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by tomhawq View Post
                  It's a corrupt sport where no one takes accountability for anything unlike normal establishments where they're obligated to publish independently-audited bottom line figures. In boxing, they treat everyone like idiots and no one sees forest from trees. Those figures should never be taken seriously.

                  Assuming everything stays the same, $20 million is a huge jump from $2 million. Helenius fight, which was pegged as a comeback fight, would have to be the size of Canelo vs Cotto.​
                  Right. Everyone lies, which included agenda-driven fans. Even PPV numbers are exaggerated in an age where everyone wants to stream for free. The only numbers that can be trusted are TV ratings because they're not affiliated to any business entity.
                  Last edited by maguirre; 10-31-2023, 02:22 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Marchegiano View Post
                    Jesus Christ bro, you want a crash course in market penetration and ****? How to evaluate a personality's time value?
                    You are a fanatical idiot. Wilder is lucky to have a fan like you.

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