Comments Thread For: Ryan Garcia, Terence Crawford Call for 'Reimagining' Boxing After News of Showtime Exit

[SweetPbfAli]

Bud Crawford lost money for his last promoter for years. How about we not listen to him about the future of the boxing business.

Now how about this, how responsible was said promotor in not maximizing his potential. Seems to have pretty well as soon as he left like DLH, Mayweather, Cotto, Pacquiao and so on.

[brettWall]

Arum thought he was investing on TC thinking it will lay golden eggs eventually. Turned out Bud is a dud in the box office. He never made a return on his investment.

It's true. If you look at the guys Crawford fought, Jean, Molina, Lundy, Dulorme, Beltran... He made $1 mil - $1.4 mil on each of these fights. While Thurman and Porter made their first $1 mil when they fought each other.

[SweetPbfAli]

Just realized a lot of the posts in here are just bootlickers. How dare the fighters want to have more control over their livelihoods and speak out about it? Nuts lol

[Oldskoolg]

The boxers are going to have to stop demanding ludicrous purses for small to
medium fights, fight more often, and fighter bigger names. Losses must stop being equated with the end of a fighter’s career

[SteveM]

One outlet in the USA pulls out of boxing and NSB collectively wails and throws a fit - forgetting that this is a global sport and the Saudis or Chinese or another iteration of DAZN can easily fill the supposed void.

This is a reset moment. The Saudis could easily set up WBSS-similar tournaments in every weight division if they wanted to and dictate payouts leaving boxers to participate or not - just like golf. Leaving promoters and belt orgs trailing in their wake.

[brettWall]

Have we not acknowledged all of the Arum fighters that have left him to even greater success?

Crawford re-signed with Top Rank twice! He never wanted to leave, but the pressures of getting the Spence fight made left him with no choice.

[SweetPbfAli]

The boxers are going to have to stop demanding ludicrous purses for small to
medium fights, fight more often, and fighter bigger names. Losses must stop being equated with the end of a fighter’s career

I agree. There was a bad precedent set where they were getting paid high level purses for low level fights. I think the next network will mandate they make certain fights in order to be allotted a certain budget or do it on a per fight basis, and hold the promotors and fighters liable contractually.

Networks haven't really flexed their power in this and have let the promotional companies run rampant.

[SteveM]

Now how about this, how responsible was said promotor in not maximizing his potential. Seems to have pretty well as soon as he left like DLH, Mayweather, Cotto, Pacquiao and so on.

Top Rank don't care to promote anymore - look at the Janibek fight - they put it on in Rosenberg and even people actually IN Rosenberg didn't know there was a world championship fight on in their little backwater town where for sure there was nothing much better to do on a Saturday night.

[SweetPbfAli]

Crawford re-signed with Top Rank twice! He never wanted to leave, but the pressures of getting the Spence fight made left him with no choice.

That answered my question, how? The fight happened and a rematch is possibly on the horizon and you're still talking about a resigning with TR.

Whatever your feelings with Bud are, this isn't about one person, it's about the sport as a whole.

[-MEGA-]

It's true. If you look at the guys Crawford fought, Jean, Molina, Lundy, Dulorme, Beltran... He made $1 mil - $1.4 mil on each of these fights. While Thurman and Porter made their first $1 mil when they fought each other.

Robert Guerrero	$1.5m	50%	2015
Luis Collazo	$1.5m	50%	2015
Shawn Porter	$1.4m	50%	2016
Danny García	$2m	50%	2016
Josesito López	$750k	N/A	2019
Manny Pacquiao	$1.5m	50%	2019
Mario Barrios	$1m	50%	2021
Upcoming Fight	TBA	TBA	TBA