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  • #11
    Maybe if the top boxers in heavier divisions fought more than once a year, and wasn't more focused on keeping that shiny golden "0" and as a result pLaying dodgeball against each other it might help...and of course, promotions not going "only MY guys fight MY guys" and other ******ity.

    Look at the lower divisions (and no, I'm not just implying about Inoue), champions regularly fighting other champions for unification, and title bouts and belts changing ownership more frequently due to the champions willing to take on higher risk challengers to provide an entertainment for the fans more than worry about polishing that win-loss record. As a result they may be less "undefeated" guys, but when you consider any other major sport, if players/teams are good enough to be undefeated for so long, eventually you are supposed to face each other and thus one should get a defeat.

    135 is a good example...they have/had Tank, Shakur, and Haney who were all considered top 10 P4P caliber guys and all undefeated for a fair amount of time in the same division, but haven't fought each other and now Haney is going up to 140. Same as Bivol/Beterbiev situation. Bud/Spence finally occurred, but years later than when it should've.
    Last edited by Elheath; 10-18-2023, 01:46 PM.

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    • #12
      Seems from the responses since on Twitter that Oscar just wants to be the sole former boxer with any relevant promotional pull. He’s probably worried that his entire angle of being a former boxer loses credibility and likely exposes how he is just like the rest of these promotors, if other boxers start taking a more active stance and truly learn how things work.

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      • #13
        I don't necessarily see this as a bad thing. UFC really has had ESPN as a backer and it does good. I will say they make money only because they pay their fighters crap, but that's a story for another day. What this forces though is promoters forced to come together under one umbrella (Network) and forced to make good fights and not have the whole in fighting between networks to see who carries the fight. To some aspect, this is kinda of already happening, in the past couple of years more fights have been made that seemed to have issues in year's prior, so I'm interested in seeing what happens.

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        • #14
          Terrence is a smart, no-BS man. You want him in any discussion of the future of the sport.

          (There’s a role for Ryan, too. He can help attract new ring girls to the sport.)

          The De La Hoyas and the Arums and the Kings and the Haymons, though, have had their day. They couldn’t make it work. In fact, they ruined what did work, though Haymon at least tried to innovate around their disasters with a big pile of venture capital. He also notoriously blocked great fights from happening—but it’s too late to cry about that.

          Meanwhile, two things will happen.

          The rise of YouTuber boxing is going to turn what most casuals think of the sport into a dumber version of the WWE, and lizards like Eddie Hearn will be covering themselves in glitter and wearing pirate hats and shooting midgets out of cannons.

          Secondly, real boxing is going to eat humble pie. Maybe out of small local and regional cards, where the sweat and blood will still flow, something big will rise again.

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          • #15
            Terence Crawford and 4 egocentric wack jobs.
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            • #16
              What's next, PBC having its events streaming on OnlyFans?
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              • #17
                1 belt, 1 promotion, all boxer's under 1 umbrella.

                Or continue with this siht show.

                Hopefully the Saudis will buy boxing & make it a sport again.
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                • #18
                  Crawford has no business chiming in. He never made any adjustments on paycuts even in the midst of Covid. Let him become a promoter himself and see if he would do the same for his fighters.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by breWall View Post
                    Crawford has no business chiming in. He never made any adjustments on paycuts even in the midst of Covid. Let him become a promoter himself and see if he would do the same for his fighters.
                    He argued publicly with Spence about hedge funds and who was the "A side". It was a terrible look for the sport.
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                    • #20
                      Both networks left cos they don’t want to pay these entitled people the ludicrous amounts that the sport-washing Saudis will. Some of these guys are gonna learn very quick what economic moat means, the hard way.

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