Why is Wilder still considered elite?

[PRINCEKOOL]

Times have changed and the Klitschko Brothers reign proved that because of the size advantages they had over the smaller competition.

Nature has not altered mate, Nature is open class competition 'And so is society'.

In combat sports, Boxing's Heavyweight Division is the only division which reflects nature.

If one fighter is 250-280 pounds so what? Nature does not care 'That is real raw open class competition'.

What you are suggesting is? You want to dilute the Heavyweight division, you want to destroy the competition 'Just because fighters are different'.

Take a look around in society mate, people are different 'But people still all compete, that is life'.

The Heavyweight Division is not about seeing 'Who the best 200, 210 or 250 - 280 + pound fighter is'.

The Heavyweight Division is about finding out who is the apex fighter in boxing 'Any man with the ambition to compete for that title, deserves that opportunity'.

Note: Tyson Fury is 270 + pounds, and he is the WBC Heavyweight World Champion. Uysk is 220 pounds and he is the WBA, WBO, IBF and IBO World Heavyweight Champion 'That is what makes the Heavyweight great, that is the spectacle and artistry of it'.

The Heavyweight Division is a open class division, it is a competitive democracy 'It does not need to be fixed, it does not need to be destroyed or diluted' etc.

[HandsofIron]

Nature has not altered mate, Nature is open class competition 'And so is society'.

In combat sports, Boxing's Heavyweight Division is the only division which reflects nature.

If one fighter is 250-280 pounds so what? Nature does not care 'That is real raw open class competition'.

What you are suggesting is? You want to dilute the Heavyweight division, you want to destroy the competition 'Just because fighters are different'.

Take a look around in society mate, people are different 'But people still all compete, that is life'.

The Heavyweight Division is not about seeing 'Who the best 200, 210 or 250 - 280 + pound fighter is'.

The Heavyweight Division is about finding out who is the apex fighter in boxing 'Any man with the ambition to compete for that title, deserves that opportunity'.

Note: Tyson Fury is 270 + pounds, and he is the WBC Heavyweight World Champion. Uysk is 220 pounds and he is the WBA, WBO, IBF and IBO World Heavyweight Champion 'That is what makes the Heavyweight great, that is the spectacle and artistry of it'.

The Heavyweight Division is a open class division, it is a competitive democracy 'It does not need to be fixed, it does not need to be destroyed or diluted' etc.

This isn't the 1920's Heavyweights anymore; today's Heavies are so much bigger and stronger. There's no way in hell a guy who weighs 190 lbs will be able to compete with someone who weighs 280 lbs.

Heavyweight needs an upgrade just like all the other weight classes had to go through.

[Toffee]

Heavyweight is never going to be fixed until it starts accommodating the super giants that weigh 280 lbs and up.

Just change Heavyweight to 230 lbs and Super Heavyweight to something like 260 lbs and everything after is unlimited Maxweight....is all I'm saying.

That makes the problem worse.

The champion in the Heavyweight division is the actual boxing champion. It's the open division.

To be the true champion in your model you'd have to be the Unlimited Maxweight champion. Except a whole bunch who currently try to make it in the Heavyweight Division would drop down to limited weight classes in search of belts they can monetise.

Basically, you'd get even fewer fights between those claiming to be the best fighters in the world. And more belts. Neither of those are a good thing.

[PRINCEKOOL]

This isn't the 1920's Heavyweights anymore; today's Heavies are so much bigger and stronger. There's no way in hell a guy who weighs 190 lbs will be able to compete with someone who weighs 280 lbs.

Heavyweight needs an upgrade just like all the other weight classes had to go through.

The other weight classes have had a upgrade, how is that going for them? There is not a year goes by were a fighter does make the excuse 'That making the weight lost them the fight, all because they are not fighting at their natural weight and they are weight draining themselves. That is not a upgrade mate, that is the destruction of raw competition'.

It is irrelevant what you believe mate when it comes to open class competition.

Have you ever had a fight? Did you go to high school? Did you ever have to fight with other kids growing up?

Before those fights happened, did you stop and asked for the weight and dimension of whoever you was having a dispute with? No.

If somebody confronted you on the street who out weighed you by 50 pounds, and stated that had a issue with you and your family 'And proceeded to attack you. Are you not going to defend yourself? Or are you going to cite this rule that you cannot compete with this person because he is different and out weigh's you? You are going to fight mate, because that is nature that is open class competition.

That is essentially what open class competition is, that is how competition in nature and society works 'The Heavyweight boxing division is the only division in all of combat sports which reflects that'.

The Heavyweight Division is not about finding out who the best fighter is at a specific weight 'It is about finding out who is the apex fighter in boxing, within a open class competition'.

So you want to destroy raw competition just because people are different, do you watch any other sports? Lets apply that same rule to all other sports. All these track and field athletes are all different mate, they are not all the same weight or dimension. All these World strongest men athletes are not all the same weight or dimension, and you can go through all sports historically and document this.

Did Usain Bolt vividly stand out among other 100 to 200 meter sprinters of his era? He did because he was competing in a open class competition, and that is ultimate the only way which the apex athlete can be decided 'Look at the differing body types there has been historically within 100 meter sprinting, from Carl Lewis, Linford Chrsitie, Donovan Bailey, Maurice Green to Jesse Owens'.

Understand the flaws in your reasoning mate, the only way to find out who the apex athletes, teams or whatever in all sports are 'Is to allow open class competition. That is what the Heavyweight division in boxing is'.

There is no 'I can't' there is no 'It cannot be done', there is no impossible in nature. There is only 'I will try against the odds to survive until there is no more. That is the spirit of open class competition.

Oleksandr Usyk is 6"3 and 220 pounds, and he has risen to the top of the sport 'He is one fight away from becoming the apex fighter in boxing',

Tyson Fury is 6"9 and he is 270 + pounds, and he is has risen to the top of his sport 'He is one fight away from becoming the apex fighter in boxing'.

Note: If you don't want to watch open class competition, don't watch the Heavyweight division 'And don't watch most other non combat sports' etc..