The top 4 heavyweights sure wrecked this era…

[joe strong]

Let's see how 2024 plays out. After a ****e 2023 for the division. I think Fury Usyk happens. I do not think Wilder AJ happens next and never have i wouldn't ne surprised if never does. But that is the fight they both need. Wilder is turning 38 next month, i would have liked to see Ruiz fight maybe they'll make one last push if that doesn't happen then i'm not sure who else he can fight. AJ Wilder not happening and Wilder Usyk aint realistic either. Eddie talking about AJ vs Hrgovic or Ruiz doubt those happen think itll be an even worse opponent. Zhang Joyce 2 winner can maybe fight Wilder or AJ

I’m hoping for a better 2024 too. Gassiev/Wallin is a good fight, Joyce/Yang rematch… Not much else. Anderson fights in November with no confirmed opponent yet & Wardley/Adeleye is almost signed. Charr/Miller has to happen by October 14.

[Dr. Z]

It doesn’t matter who is at fault for the fights not happening but they have let the fans down.
Greed is the main culprit! Each of the top 4 guys have only fought 1 of the other top 4. Fury fought Wilder & Usyk fought Joshua. Wilder is 37, Usyk 36, Fury 35 & Joshua 34… Lennox was done at 38 but he fought everyone! These big fights are past their best dates. This era had so much potential but GREED by the fighters & promoters ruined what could have been. They could have all fought each other & walked away with even more than what they have now.

The 4 belt era is another culprit. Promoters would rather milk a beltholder than actually risk them losing their title & the sanctioning bodies corruption favouring certain fighters & promoters.

Some of the blame can even be directed towards the fans. Too much emphasis on a fighter losing his “0”. A guy loses a couple of fights & he is exposed, a bum or overrated. That hasn’t helped a fighter’s marketing ability. I have accepted that there may never be another undisputed champion.

I started watching HW boxing in the Tyson era so Ali was before my time. During my era as a fan the 90s were hands down the best. 3 belts but everyone fought each other & many times more than once. I never used to miss a fight but now i am so far behind on all the recent HW fights & have started to lose interest. When HBO & FNF ended I think that is when things really started to decline. American HWs got regular exposure on those telecasts. Not into paying for sport streaming services. I just try to watch replays on youtube when possible.

Three imposters. One was a PED and fight cheater with his fouls. One lacks a sack and has no confidence. The other one lacked talent and has yet to win a big fight. No need to mention names. They will all be gone soon. There is one legit fighter at the top and a lot of young talent behind him. Bring them on.


Actually Lewis was done at 37, but you right the 1990's is the best or second best decade of talent and the talent actually meet each other. RIP HBO boxing.

[Willow The Wisp]

Lewis didn’t fight everyone he never fought Bowe his biggest rival when that went past its dates .

Lewis didn’t unify almost a decade into his career and fought easy touches here and there . If Joshua did that ,we’ll be did he fought Franklin who everyone said beat Whyte anyway and you saw the reaction on here even though Franklin is not a washed out fighter with tons of losses unlike the rest fight .

Bowe wanted 85% of the pot or close to it I think to fight Lewis so you can’t actually talk about greed here .

The top guys of the 90”s ended up being Lewis , .Holyfield and Mike Tyson who all fought each other at tail end of their careers ,is this one much different ? Well I’d say these guys are operating closer to their primes ,Usyk is a better fighter then Wilder ..Joshua fought that guy twice . In fact it’s down to Fury and if he fights either Joshua or .Usyk which he clearly has little interest in from the beginning. The sole blame is greed but only one man is doing it ,we know who it’s the guy looking fir the easier fights and we know it’s Fury it’s on his resume . Lol

.....Usyk is a better fighter than Wilder?
where were you last week?????????

[Willow The Wisp]

It doesn’t matter who is at fault for the fights not happening but they have let the fans down.
Greed is the main culprit! Each of the top 4 guys have only fought 1 of the other top 4. Fury fought Wilder & Usyk fought Joshua. Wilder is 37, Usyk 36, Fury 35 & Joshua 34… Lennox was done at 38 but he fought everyone! These big fights are past their best dates. This era had so much potential but GREED by the fighters & promoters ruined what could have been. They could have all fought each other & walked away with even more than what they have now.

The 4 belt era is another culprit. Promoters would rather milk a beltholder than actually risk them losing their title & the sanctioning bodies corruption favouring certain fighters & promoters.

Some of the blame can even be directed towards the fans. Too much emphasis on a fighter losing his “0”. A guy loses a couple of fights & he is exposed, a bum or overrated. That hasn’t helped a fighter’s marketing ability. I have accepted that there may never be another undisputed champion.

I started watching HW boxing in the Tyson era so Ali was before my time. During my era as a fan the 90s were hands down the best. 3 belts but everyone fought each other & many times more than once. I never used to miss a fight but now i am so far behind on all the recent HW fights & have started to lose interest. When HBO & FNF ended I think that is when things really started to decline. American HWs got regular exposure on those telecasts. Not into paying for sport streaming services. I just try to watch replays on youtube when possible.

I understand the frustration.
I think the Chinese Pandemic disrupted the heart of the 2015 - 2025 Era.

[Willow The Wisp]

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[Boxing 112]

Three imposters. One was a PED and fight cheater with his fouls. One lacks a sack and has no confidence. The other one lacked talent and has yet to win a big fight. No need to mention names. They will all be gone soon. There is one legit fighter at the top and a lot of young talent behind him. Bring them on.

Three imposters kind of agree what you said. So i know you mean Bowe is the one who had no confidence (binned his belt)? PED cheat, that gotta be Holyfield your referring to. Fight cheater, M Tyson the ear biter? Lacked talent, your a bit harsh on Lewis there he got sparked out twice by journeymen but he had some talent.

[MulaKO]

Heavyweight division is in its saddest stage ever

[JakeTheBoxer]

People must understand that this "era" is over. Fury is done, Wilder is hardly top 5 guy, the same goes to Joshua. Usyk actually just lost to a fringe contender.

Top guys are Zhang, Hrgovic and others.

[QueensburyRules]

It doesn’t matter who is at fault for the fights not happening but they have let the fans down.
Greed is the main culprit! Each of the top 4 guys have only fought 1 of the other top 4. Fury fought Wilder & Usyk fought Joshua. Wilder is 37, Usyk 36, Fury 35 & Joshua 34… Lennox was done at 38 but he fought everyone! These big fights are past their best dates. This era had so much potential but GREED by the fighters & promoters ruined what could have been. They could have all fought each other & walked away with even more than what they have now.

The 4 belt era is another culprit. Promoters would rather milk a beltholder than actually risk them losing their title & the sanctioning bodies corruption favouring certain fighters & promoters.

Some of the blame can even be directed towards the fans. Too much emphasis on a fighter losing his “0”. A guy loses a couple of fights & he is exposed, a bum or overrated. That hasn’t helped a fighter’s marketing ability. I have accepted that there may never be another undisputed champion.

I started watching HW boxing in the Tyson era so Ali was before my time. During my era as a fan the 90s were hands down the best. 3 belts but everyone fought each other & many times more than once. I never used to miss a fight but now i am so far behind on all the recent HW fights & have started to lose interest. When HBO & FNF ended I think that is when things really started to decline. American HWs got regular exposure on those telecasts. Not into paying for sport streaming services. I just try to watch replays on youtube when possible.

- - Monkeys always gonna gibber and drool over heavies, but AJ saved boxing by wiping out Haymon stables, unifying, putting 80+ crazed Brits in open air stadium fights, and passing on that legacy to Usyk and Ukraine where it rightfully belongs…duhhh…

[Dr. Z]

Three imposters kind of agree what you said. So i know you mean Bowe is the one who had no confidence (binned his belt)? PED cheat, that gotta be Holyfield your referring to. Fight cheater, M Tyson the ear biter? Lacked talent, your a bit harsh on Lewis there he got sparked out twice by journeymen but he had some talent.

Yes , the 1990's had both talent and depth. Holyfield fought everybody and Lewis, yes his chin could be exposed; his two KO losses happen when you fight 40+ matches at heavyweight vs. ranked contenders. Lewis fought 14+ ring ranked contenders. Fury, just three and one was old ( Wlad at 39 ). Upon reflection two ko losses happen under these circumstances . IE fighting 14+ ranked contenders.

A sample of the ranked contenders of 1992. You will see several hall of fame guys that were active, and Tyson was in prison for this ranking.


Title Vacant

1. Rid**** Bowe
2. Lennox Lewis
3. Evander Holyfield
4. Michael Moorer
5. Tony Tucker
6. George Foreman
7. Razor Ruddock
8. Ray Mercer
9. Tommy Morrison
10. Alex Garcia

https://boxrec.com/wiki/index.php/Th..._Ratings:_1992