Why there is only One Heavyweight Champion

[The Big Dunn]

Fury was on First Take just now.

He said his next fight would be Jon Jones. Said AJ was a bum. Said no to Wilder 4.

Imo he isn’t serious about Jones and would inly make wilder 4 if the payday was absurd.

My issue is Stephen A. did the interview and didn’t mention Usyk. It felt to me like he was told not to mention him. Look at the interview and judge for yourself.

How can anyone take Stephen A. seriously when it comes to boxing? Usyk was just on ESPN presumably to set this fight up. Yet the most prominent voice on ESPN doesn’t mention him.

[Willow The Wisp]

There is loads in that post that's funny as ****, but, for me this list got me best.

What even is a forvanta?

Aries? Not Apollo? You sure?

Those names, the ones that aren't made up, ain't even in proper order.


good stuff.

You'll have to do better. If you feel as though there's an error, don't just make provocative statements devoidof reason - Point out the errors.

Your work here lends to the beleif that you're capible of mounting something in the way of a challenge.

Challenge one name that you beleive to be "Made up".

Apollo was a God, this is a list of humans.

What's "Your" list? How does it differ? Do the work. You're not challenging just anybody, you know.

You're arguing against all of academia, so be precise.
Very, very precise.

[Willow The Wisp]

Fury was on First Take just now.

He said his next fight would be Jon Jones. Said AJ was a bum. Said no to Wilder 4.

Imo he isn’t serious about Jones and would inly make wilder 4 if the payday was absurd.

My issue is Stephen A. did the interview and didn’t mention Usyk. It felt to me like he was told not to mention him. Look at the interview and judge for yourself.

How can anyone take Stephen A. seriously when it comes to boxing? Usyk was just on ESPN presumably to set this fight up. Yet the most prominent voice on ESPN doesn’t mention him.

Stephen A is a general sports talking head, not a boxing guy. Never take his opinion on the subject seriously.

[Willow The Wisp]

There is no such thing as the lineal heavyweight title and therefore, no such think as a lineal HW champion.

There is a lineage of heavyweight champions, of course, which is something entirely different. Both Fury and Usyk are part of that lineage. Neither has any more right than the other to call himself "The Lineal Champion"

I keep seeing people say that Wlad Klitschko was the lineal champ - but they can't seem to agree who it was that Wlad beat to win the lineal title - and Fury beat Wlad, so he is now the lineal champ. But even if that is accepted as valid, Fury officially retired and gave up his licence after beating Wlad, and the "lineal title" became "vacant".

If a champion vacates his title, he is no longer the champion, correct?

That is the Very definition of a subject matter Casual, right there.

Make it up as you please - Its only history.

[IronDanHamza]

Fury was on First Take just now.

He said his next fight would be Jon Jones. Said AJ was a bum. Said no to Wilder 4.

Imo he isn’t serious about Jones and would inly make wilder 4 if the payday was absurd.

My issue is Stephen A. did the interview and didn’t mention Usyk. It felt to me like he was told not to mention him. Look at the interview and judge for yourself.

How can anyone take Stephen A. seriously when it comes to boxing? Usyk was just on ESPN presumably to set this fight up. Yet the most prominent voice on ESPN doesn’t mention him.

Haven't watched it, but if that's not happened then he had to have been told not to mention Usyk.

Not a good look.

[kafkod]

Fury was on First Take just now.

He said his next fight would be Jon Jones. Said AJ was a bum. Said no to Wilder 4.

Imo he isn’t serious about Jones and would inly make wilder 4 if the payday was absurd.

My issue is Stephen A. did the interview and didn’t mention Usyk. It felt to me like he was told not to mention him. Look at the interview and judge for yourself.

How can anyone take Stephen A. seriously when it comes to boxing? Usyk was just on ESPN presumably to set this fight up. Yet the most prominent voice on ESPN doesn’t mention him.

I would say it's 50/50 on whether Stephen A even knows who Usyk is.

[kafkod]

You'll have to do better. If you feel as though there's an error, don't just make provocative statements devoidof reason - Point out the errors.

Your work here lends to the beleif that you're capible of mounting something in the way of a challenge.

Challenge one name that you beleive to be "Made up".

Apollo was a God, this is a list of humans.

What's "Your" list? How does it differ? Do the work. You're not challenging just anybody, you know.

You're arguing against all of academia, so be precise.
Very, very precise.

Aries was also a god, like Apollo

As for arguing against academia - within academia there is a difference between History and Mythology.

Having names like Theseus and Heracles on a list of historical boxing champions is like having Robin Hood and William Tell on a list of historical archery champions. Or King Arthur on a list of British monarchs.

[kafkod]

Make it up as you please - Its only history.

I'll leave that to you.

[El_Mero]

There is no such thing as the lineal heavyweight title and therefore, no such think as a lineal HW champion.

There is a lineage of heavyweight champions, of course, which is something entirely different. Both Fury and Usyk are part of that lineage. Neither has any more right than the other to call himself "The Lineal Champion"

I keep seeing people say that Wlad Klitschko was the lineal champ - but they can't seem to agree who it was that Wlad beat to win the lineal title - and Fury beat Wlad, so he is now the lineal champ. But even if that is accepted as valid, Fury officially retired and gave up his licence after beating Wlad, and the "lineal title" became "vacant".

If a champion vacates his title, he is no longer the champion, correct?

It's even funnier that when Wilder held the wbc title,he sh.it on AJ being unified when he could've fought Parker and others but also sh.it on Furys lineal title. Then instead of fighting for more money vs AJ, he thought he could cherry pick Fury then arguably lost all 3 fights and getting ktfo 2x.

[Smash]

Usyk can box great, but let's be honest; he's no greater a threat to Tyson Fury than Whyte, Chisora or perhaps, even hard hitting MMA converted boxer Francis Ngannou, for that matter, If I want to stretch it a little.

stumble bum roider, old war horse chissy & some mma guy are just what they are, pretty much title void their entire careers, clown face would have made undisputed with any of them in 1 sec flat