Comments Thread For: Mayweather Had Canelo Level Power, Says Shane Mosley

[djtmal]

True. Fair point.

Why would it be held against Floyd that they all waited to fight him rather than immediately when he called them out?

Because that would make it a glaring excuse and overshadow the guys that was calling Floyd out but apparently the phone in the limo was busted:

Paul Williams
Backed out of Margarito fight
Backed out of fight with Winky Wright
Shane called him out at 135
Stevie Johnston
prime undefeated Cotto
backed out of 2009 Manny fight
Prime undefeated Thurman had two belts

Surely you can't have excuses for all of these guys


Let's not make it seem like Floyd wasn't being called out at any point of his career. He was just very strategic in when to fight the best guys either when they were shopworn and in most cases, not at all

[Boxing2695]

Yeah Mayweather didn't have Tommy hearns type power but he had enough to make some guys hesitant about just throwing shots because it was sharp and fast straight right hand and it would snap the head back. Was one of the first punches he landed against pacquiao to let him know he couldn't just jump in with combinations

[djtmal]

Floyd had power hes even stopping mma guys now. But he preferred to tap you. It's less telegraphic to tap. But if I was judge I would nt score taps

I was impressed with how he knocked out the 120 lb kickboxer

[djtmal]

Understood.

Talking just about resume-why would the delays be held against Floyd?

I get that Manny, ODH and Shane werent in their primes. What I don’t get is why their decisions to delay fighting Floyd is used against Floyd.

You mention Canelo v GGG. Canelo waiting to fight him is rightfully held against Canelo, not GGG.

If Tank fights and beats Loma, the win will be held against Tank because he waited to fight Loma presumably so he could age and be a lesser fighter.

The waiting by Canelo and Tank is seen as a measure of how good GGG and Loma are.

Shouldnt the same thing apply to Floyd?

The Kleenex is in the ladies room

[A.B Counterhooks]

Floyd had enough power to keep opp at bay but not exactly a power puncher his brittle hands/wrists couldn't allow it. Great boxer tho.

[daggum]

Understood.

Talking just about resume-why would the delays be held against Floyd?

I get that Manny, ODH and Shane werent in their primes. What I don’t get is why their decisions to delay fighting Floyd is used against Floyd.

You mention Canelo v GGG. Canelo waiting to fight him is rightfully held against Canelo, not GGG.

If Tank fights and beats Loma, the win will be held against Tank because he waited to fight Loma presumably so he could age and be a lesser fighter.

The waiting by Canelo and Tank is seen as a measure of how good GGG and Loma are.

Shouldnt the same thing apply to Floyd?

you know what floyd, tank, and canelo have in common? they were all the a-sides calling the shots. its so strange how you admit canelo and tank ducked but not floyd when its the same exact thing. its actually worse because we have so much evidence against floyd. floyd said testing was holding up the pac fight for years...then when manny agreed to testing he changed mannys purse to a flat offer...then when manny was old and shot...he changed mannys purse back to a 40 percent split. that clearly proves floyd was just ducking the fight. and we know floyd has a history of ducking top guys like marg and cotto making up laughable excuses and fighting guys for less money instead of them. he literally pulled the same money switch against winky wright as well when winky agreed to his crazy demands like a rehydration clause...what did floyd do? changed the money. he knows how to kill a fight he doesnt want and he didnt want to fight manny. that is crystal clear and its held against him as it should be. he doenst have any great wins and thats entirely his fault. he had a chance being the biggest star in boxing to make any fight...he was scared and ended up with a resume full of old guys and small japanese boys. cong****. your hero scammed you but you are too deep to admit it.

[Gary Coleman]

Floyds power was perhaps undersold in the later stages of his career but it seems doubtful that he hit anywhere near as hard as Canelo tbh. Better overall boxer by miles obviously, but Canelo is a ****ing tank.

It's more Floyd's speed and counter punching ability. You're catching stiff shots when you least expect.

Floyd really sat on his punches vs Shane.

[daggum]

It's more Floyd's speed and counter punching ability. You're catching stiff shots when you least expect.

Floyd really sat on his punches vs Shane.

thats true he did sit down on his punches vs shane cause he had a dead man in front of him who was just standing there and there was no threat of any mosley counters after round 2, where if you look at the way floyd fought pac, he was not getting any leverage or body weight into his punches and many timeswas literally just sticking his arm out and lightly touching pac with more of a push motion because he was so scared of pacs counters and speed.

[The Big Dunn]

Because that would make it a glaring excuse and overshadow the guys that was calling Floyd out but apparently the phone in the limo was busted:

Paul Williams
Backed out of Margarito fight
Backed out of fight with Winky Wright
Shane called him out at 135
Stevie Johnston
prime undefeated Cotto
backed out of 2009 Manny fight
Prime undefeated Thurman had two belts

Surely you can't have excuses for all of these guys


Let's not make it seem like Floyd wasn't being called out at any point of his career. He was just very strategic in when to fight the best guys either when they were shopworn and in most cases, not at all

when Floyd calls someone out and they dont fight him, you hold it against Floyd.

when someone calls Floyd out and Floyd doesn’t fight him, you hold it against Floyd.

That is the distinction I don’t understand/

[hitmanjosh]

People can and will hate on Floyd all they want, but he kicked everyones aSs at their best too! All styles, power punchers, boxers, so called slick cagey fighters you name it, rematches anyone he faced had not the ability, stamina nor fortitude to beat him, so take that to the gotdam bank haters!