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  • djtmal
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    #51
    Originally posted by Roadblock

    Most of those fights were not even in the running at the time
    Stopped right here.

    Most of those fights were not in the running at that time he was offered a career high 8 million to step in with Margarito and he backed out.

    Excuses

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      #52
      Originally posted by daggum

      thats true he did sit down on his punches vs shane cause he had a dead man in front of him who was just standing there and there was no threat of any mosley counters after round 2, where if you look at the way floyd fought pac, he was not getting any leverage or body weight into his punches and many timeswas literally just sticking his arm out and lightly touching pac with more of a push motion because he was so scared of pacs counters and speed.
      Lmfao.

      In other words- Floyd was the much smarter boxer and beat Manny easily because once Manny’s main offense was neutralized he couldn’t beat you.

      Sort of like how Matthysse, Tyson and other power guys had difficulty winning if the opponent could neutralize or avoid their power.

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        #53
        Well there's a reason people don't let their hands go against Floyd. There's a reason "bum-rushing" doesn't work against Floyd, despite the internet insisting that's the best way to fight him. I really don't know who started the myth that Floyd has no power. The man can clearly crack. He had legit 154lbers afraid to let their hands fly.

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          #54
          Originally posted by daggum

          you know what floyd, tank, and canelo have in common? they were all the a-sides calling the shots. its so strange how you admit canelo and tank ducked but not floyd when its the same exact thing. its actually worse because we have so much evidence against floyd. floyd said testing was holding up the pac fight for years...then when manny agreed to testing he changed mannys purse to a flat offer...then when manny was old and shot...he changed mannys purse back to a 40 percent split. that clearly proves floyd was just ducking the fight. and we know floyd has a history of ducking top guys like marg and cotto making up laughable excuses and fighting guys for less money instead of them. he literally pulled the same money switch against winky wright as well when winky agreed to his crazy demands like a rehydration clause...what did floyd do? changed the money. he knows how to kill a fight he doesnt want and he didnt want to fight manny. that is crystal clear and its held against him as it should be. he doenst have any great wins and thats entirely his fault. he had a chance being the biggest star in boxing to make any fight...he was scared and ended up with a resume full of old guys and small japanese boys. cong****. your hero scammed you but you are too deep to admit it.
          Floyd was not the a-side when calling out Fishnets or Shane.

          You’re blatantly lying about testing. Manny refused citing needle fear. Then tried negotiating a cutoff. Don’t leave that part out.

          You mean he bought out his TR deal because Bob kept telling him he couldnt make the ODH fight. You left that part out.

          The 40 mil no ppv offer was 28% more than Manny had ever made with the bulk of the ppv as the a-side. He left money on the table on his own choice and got ktfo. That isn’t Floyd’s fault.

          You also dont mention the stitches Manny got from Bob’s son in law only after Nevada changed Floyd’s jail date so the fight could happen.

          Its called negotiations. The same thing that other a-sides have done that you never question or complain about. When Floyd got to the top, he did the same thing done by other cash cows before him.

          lmfao. He didnt scam anyone. He beat the guys you said would beat him and instead of being an adult and admitting you’re wrong, you’re making excuses for the losers.

          He ended up with an ATG, 1st ballot HOF resume, loaded with guys you like. That is why you’re so bitter and dishonest.
          Last edited by The Big Dunn; 08-23-2023, 10:43 AM.

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            #55
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn

            when Floyd calls someone out and they dont fight him, you hold it against Floyd.

            when someone calls Floyd out and Floyd doesn’t fight him, you hold it against Floyd.

            That is the distinction I don’t understand/
            Thats because you a Floyd fanboy who only sees it one way.

            Absolutely we holding it against Floyd if he calls out Winky Wright, then backs out of the negotiation.

            Absolutely we holding it against Floyd if he backs out of a career high payday with Margarito

            Absolutely we holding it against Floyd for taking a two year vacation when his division is at its peak.

            Floyd this guy. He quick to say he the a side when it's time to get paid, but it's always excuses and the other guys fault when its a prime fighter who looks like a hard night's work.

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              #56
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn

              Lmfao.

              In other words- Floyd was the much smarter boxer and beat Manny easily because once Manny’s main offense was neutralized he couldn’t beat you.

              Everything is easier when you have a shopworn fighter in front of you

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                #57
                Originally posted by djtmal

                Stopped right here.

                Most of those fights were not in the running at that time he was offered a career high 8 million to step in with Margarito and he backed out.

                Excuses
                He was offered this as cover once he made the decade to buy out his TR contract because Bob kept telling him he couldn’t make the ODH fight.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by djtmal

                  Thats because you a Floyd fanboy who only sees it one way.

                  Absolutely we holding it against Floyd if he calls out Winky Wright, then backs out of the negotiation.

                  Absolutely we holding it against Floyd if he backs out of a career high payday with Margarito

                  Absolutely we holding it against Floyd for taking a two year vacation when his division is at its peak.

                  Floyd this guy. He quick to say he the a side when it's time to get paid, but it's always excuses and the other guys fault when its a prime fighter who looks like a hard night's work.
                  Why arent you holding it against Odh, shane and Manny for refusing to fight him is what I asked?

                  You are holding that against him because he beat Shane and Manny when you said he wouldn’t. Same as daggum.

                  Your guys couldnt beat Floyd in the ring, so you have to denigrate his career out of it.

                  That is what sore losers do.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by djtmal

                    Everything is easier when you have a shopworn fighter in front of you
                    He wasnt shopworn. He just wasnt good enough.

                    Dont forget that before he got ktfo such that you and other sore losers can claim he was shopworn, Manny

                    1. Declared he was ready to go then Got elective stitches only after Nevada extended Floyd’s jail start date so the fight could happen.

                    2. Turned down the fight over a flat fee offer that was 28% more than he ever made as the a-side.

                    You’re boy and his team at TR knew he was going to lose and delayed the fight as long as they could.

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                    • djtmal
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn



                      You’re blatantly lying about testing. Manny refused citing needle fear. Then tried negotiating a cutoff. Don’t leave that part out.

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                      That's not how it went. Floyd injected ost random testing at the 11th hour after everything was agreed upon.

                      They were stalled negotiating a cutoff for random testing manny wanted 24 floyd 14 or something like that.

                      When Manny agreed to 14 Floyd moved the goalposts to zero and Manny backed away

                      The Manny side they tried to negotiatiate a fair cutoff imo, but Floyd didn't want to budge because he clearly didn't want the fight.


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